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iceybeatzjosh
Jun 6, 2008, 01:45 PM
anyone bake before a day out in sea?

there is nothing like being out in the water after smoking a joint of killer kush.

or after snacking on some psychedelic mushrooms.

do you guys agree?

goin_retro
Jun 6, 2008, 02:42 PM
Shrooms and surfing. Don't think so. Sounds like a wasted session.

tnich000
Jun 6, 2008, 03:02 PM
o yeah pullin fat bingz before and after a long surf nothing compares to this mannn

aka pumpmaster
Jun 6, 2008, 03:06 PM
i actually quit smoking weed cause it was killing my surfing.

MDSurfer
Jun 6, 2008, 03:32 PM
Stoners and burnouts= a completely wasted session.

beachbreak
Jun 6, 2008, 03:43 PM
Surfing is Exhilarating.
Before, During and after Surfing I'm flying high.
It's the feeling everyone else spends all their time trying to achieve.
Surfing makes me happy!
When I'm not in the water, talking, writing or thinking about surfing makes me stoked.
I am riding a wave,in touch with the universe.
I need or want nothing more.
Pure and Clean, I feel totally alive.
Like Music.
Like Love.
Surfing,Music.
Love.

GnarActually
Jun 6, 2008, 03:49 PM
ah that was beautiful beachbreak

iceybeatzjosh
Jun 6, 2008, 04:11 PM
where is chong when you need him

xgen70
Jun 6, 2008, 04:23 PM
Yes and no...........excess is not good on that front, and to bad it tends to take Wasted time and years to figure it out for most. Moderation is the way to go.

Do you think that it is smart to to get blind,.... really blind, or be trippin, when the waves are pumping, and then paddle out into the ocean? Most people need as much lung as they can if a hold down were to occur. For the most part, unless it is a swell of no size I do not think it would be wise or safe. Maybe I can see you pulling a brief drag off a buddies blunt or joint, but even then, if the waves are good, after the first hollow section you pull into, that buzz is gone and overwhelmed by what is truly free,...surfing is the best dope in the world!

By the way, I do not agree with these types of posts that we have all seen before. If that is what you like and do, so be it, it is your life, And I will not judge you. But being that many younger kids are on these sites and some people have families and kids that they would like to raise without them being exposed to drugs and the drug culture, I do not think this is a good thread at all. Best to keep that kind of stuff on the down low.

iceybeatzjosh
Jun 6, 2008, 04:36 PM
drugs are good. god/buddha put these things on earth for us to get closer to them. I am 14 and have been smoking for 2 years straight every single day. my lungs are perfect I play soccer, surf, meditate, and I get all As in school.

every one is too hype. you need to chill and enjoy life.

Icculus
Jun 6, 2008, 05:00 PM
I think blazing makes surfing waist high waves amazingly fun. me and my friends can go out on days where it may not be worthwhile and have a great time stoned. like today maybe. If the surfs actually good then its not necessary. and thats not saying i cant have fun on knee to waist high waves without pot. but it just makes it that much better.

SpongeGary
Jun 6, 2008, 05:04 PM
I love to smoke before getting waves. Everything feels so much better and more fun. Anyone check out the hightimes mag with the Pro surfers blazing up before paddeling out?

Aguaholic
Jun 6, 2008, 05:20 PM
Not judging anyone....do what u like...I do ......but this kind of thread shouldn't be on here.
Especially from a 14 year old. :eek:

Blackholed?

sorensoren
Jun 6, 2008, 05:34 PM
^^ i agree this thread should be removed

xgen70
Jun 6, 2008, 05:43 PM
yes not cool at all........I want to call B.S. on the 14 year old. In maryland you can not get a work permit until what age, so that most likely means you have been getting money from your parents, at least some times and spending it on dope, right? they know about that, is that ok with them? Go get a job and spend your own money on it like a real man/pot head does.

but really, I thought those same types of things when I was younger and much more stupid then I am now........

say what you want...........it all most always starts with pot and then it leads to other more destructive drugs. yes , I laughed at that "gateway" drug talk as well when I was young, but it does prove to be true, almost always.

You are just throwing away the most valuable thing you have as a human, that being time, which when you turn around and start to grow up, you realize that humans/we have a Very limited amount of time on this planet......do not waste it doing drugs for a third of your life.

remember, average life span is between 72 and 74 years.

And if you still will not listen, just go out and buy a BALL of Coke/crack and call me in the morning, to tell me how good you feel then.

Excess is NOT Good,.........yes Natural drugs are here for a reason, but the problems are with the dumb humans that use them in the wrong way and for the wrong reason,... in the end it is the human exsistence that is out of place with our natural world that causes all the problems, no matter what it may be. Abusing drugs is never good, and for the young it is as bad as it gets/worse. I wish I could make you understand that I have seen the damage in all its forms, from the abuse of drugs. But like most dumb humans, you are going to have to find out the hard way, enjoy it while you can, because the shine does wear off very quickly. Do not forget, I really am not judging you,........I just hope that you may be able to stop and think for a minute, from some of us that have seen and been down the wrong path in our lives and have lived to talk about it. It really is a very bad chioce to make.

BmoreSurfer
Jun 6, 2008, 07:10 PM
Never surfed high and never will, couldnt focus for sure.

xgen70
Jun 6, 2008, 07:38 PM
yes, i figured it would it was going to get out of hand quick.........time to delete thread? Not one to shut down free speech, but that crap is not for this site at all. Much better *****ing at one another and about the kooks and no waves during the summer with crowds to boot........no need to turn a surf site into racial crap.

i am not white trash nor a ^&%@#$, as you said about some,. but I may take affence and shove a blunt down deep into that virgin lung of yours,..dude

Sorry about that, I shold not have repeated what he said

iceybeatzjosh
Jun 6, 2008, 07:52 PM
xgen....

mellow down man.
I did not know this will offend you so bad.

SORRY

Swellinfo
Jun 6, 2008, 07:55 PM
i dont see anything wrong with this thread. if there is a stereo type of surfers, it is that we are all pot-head beach bums.

this of course isn't true.

but, with regards to blazing it up - there are many opinions on the subject, I do think its a personally fine topic to debate about!

my personal opinion is that it doesn't work for me. I've been there / done that, and I find that it is an escape route from dealing with life. Escape routes are necessary in life, but I think smoking pot can be very harmful for individuals that abuse it, which many users seem to do. But, then again, so is alcohol, which is legal. On the other hand, others seem to deal with it fine.

Surfing, is my drug of choice. And, I'll admit it, I'm addicted. At times, it can be a good and bad addiction, but
overall it is a great and healthy escape for me.

on the other hand, racial slander is not tollerated on this forum!

SURF4LIFE
Jun 6, 2008, 09:33 PM
drugs are good. god/buddha put these things on earth for us to get closer to them. I am 14 and have been smoking for 2 years straight every single day. my lungs are perfect I play soccer, surf, meditate, and I get all As in school.

every one is too hype. you need to chill and enjoy life.

just like any thing else moderation is key but smokin at 14 you'll be hooked for a long time most likely, and wish to god every time you run out that you never started that sh*t to begin with take it from some one going on 15 years to long $80,000+ and still can't stop, your an idiot know matter what grades you get.

iceybeatzjosh
Jun 6, 2008, 10:01 PM
I never really pay to smoke. me and my friends grow all this good stuff. and we share it with each other. If we did not have this killer spot to grow the stuff, then I will not do it. it cost like 15 $ for 2 grams. that is too much


all I am saying is that jane and stuff makes a small day like paradise.

BonerSurfs
Jun 6, 2008, 10:25 PM
hellz yesss.. pulling a massive bonghit before and after a session is an absolute must, and if i could smoke out in the lineup, i would. There truly is nothing better, and i do have to agree that kush is a mighty fine strain for surfin. But a huge brimmer of Ghani to the face after a surf, sends chills down my back thinking about it. And as for the surfing on shrooms, well i never did that, but i did drop a hit of LSD one day for that last swell and i had one of the best surfs of my life, It was a little odd in the lineup though, i felt like i was drifting this way and that, but i really was not going anywhere, i was just ****ed up. But it made surf crazy smooth and powerful, and i surfed for about 6 or 7 hours straight, so straight up i highly recomend surfing on acid, if u like that sound of pulling into barrels and watching them morph over your head and seeing faces in the curl of the lip, well then you should go for it.... and smoke when its huge, small anything, bingers all day everyday, and that day i dropped a tab was massive, so dont ever let size stop u, i mean jezus we live on the east coast, were not gonna die out there

iceybeatzjosh
Jun 6, 2008, 10:42 PM
yess bonersurfs your correct. it is the best

never did lsd but shrooms are just like that. but you start seeing really cool things

conway
Jun 6, 2008, 10:46 PM
chea bro I love to get totally baked before I surf. I just blow so much dope that I can hardly walk and I go out and I get just so pitted, brah, or at least that's what it feels like. I like to do LSD too boner. i love the feeling of surfing high. seriously, i cant think of anything better to do than to get stoned and go shred.

NOT!!
you guys are retarded why would you want to waste a good, clean session blazed when you could be fully aware and probably surf better if you weren't. thats a bad stereotype fo surfers to have, stop doing it. .

xgen70
Jun 6, 2008, 11:07 PM
like I said, humans are dumb,......the kid is talking about cultivation with intent to distribute. What a dumb ass, "killer spot to grow" ....so stupid. you deserve to get busted your so stupid......It has got to B.S. how could there still be people that dumb out there, crap, do not answer that

xgen70
Jun 6, 2008, 11:22 PM
And now we got the rest of the retards talking about lsd.......give me a break. I was at RFK a month before Jerry kicked the bucket, so If the truth be told, since then, you really have not a clue what the hell you are putting in your body when you think you are taking Lsd nowadays.

Same goes for the pot they sell to the kids, people tell them what they want to hear, Kush my ass......I could grow **** that blows your so called kush away, grown in my backyard if i wanted, them I could tell you/call it whatever I wanted, and you would buy it and believe me......people are so stupid. Good killer has never been worth any more then 50 a q for twenty years now, regardless of what anyone believes or tells you. These young kids are soooo stupid, and will believe anything they are told.

Darealm
Jun 6, 2008, 11:32 PM
I was a big stoner in high school and the first year of college. I stopped (it's very easily actually) because I realized (1) it cost too much (2) was bad for my lungs (3) was not conducive to doing well in school and (4) most importantly, I witnessed many of my stoner friends from high school fall short of their potential because of their motivation to get stoned and nothing else. With that said, my opinion is that marijuana is not any worse than alcohol. The important thing about marijuana, as with everything else, is use in moderation.

ECsponger
Jun 6, 2008, 11:45 PM
Well, I pretty much moved down to OC this summer to (1) surf all day, even when its small, and (2) party all night, even when the kegs tapped. But lemme tell ya its great to smoke with your buds and go splash around in the water for a couple of hours. Jeez what else is there to do when its small and sh!tty out? :cool:

Swellinfo
Jun 7, 2008, 12:03 AM
while, I"m not quite sure whether I believe marijuana should be legal or not, i do think there is a valid reason why alcohol has an age limit. And if marijuana was ever made legal, which prob wont happen, I think three should be an age limit on it as well.

When you are a teenager, your brain is still in a development stage. By doing drugs at such an early age, it seems that there is the ability to do some long term damage to brain development. I dont know this for sure, but thats what I get from hearing some of the research out there.

On a slightly different note, I do think its crap that we can die for our country at 18, but apparently aren't mature enough to drink a beer until 21. There is something wrong with those laws.

iceybeatzjosh
Jun 7, 2008, 12:29 AM
the only danger in weed is that it is illegal.
other than that nothing is wrong with it.

I read somewhere in the washington post that weed actually can make you live longer. hiper people and people who are stuper stressed in life live shorter. and weed makes you mellow so your stress free and not hiper, so it is actually good for you body too. people smoke to solve all sorts of medical proubs. weed even brings out your creative side. and it helps me out, because I go to an art school.

surferboi0911
Jun 7, 2008, 12:35 AM
first of all, weed disables your ability to spell the word "hyper"....straight A's?

secondly, medical marijuana is different than the typical pot-head's choice of weed, so it's not what people are using to solve medical problems

however, you're right about the creativity part lol

windswellsucks
Jun 7, 2008, 01:48 AM
lots of people can smoke buds without losing control, without getting lost in the lineup and without being a retard. Others can take a hit and be a total dumbass. whats best for you is not necessarily the best for someone else.

i got straight A's in high school, graduated engineering school at the top of my class, and now have a serious engineering job which requires massive amounts of thought. I smoke almost every day. I never smoked until i was 17y/o and i am glad for that. My friends who started earlier than me got into coke, heroin and other terrible decisions which have literally ruined their lives.

in my experience, if you need to do more than smoke pot, you are probably in trouble. If you can control pot, then it can work for you. otherwise, "saying no" has zero downside and youll save a lot of money. I like surfing sober and stoned, depends entirely on the session, the vibe and how heavy the waves are.

surfing is my #1 addiction tho, and nothings gonna change that

steelwave42
Jun 7, 2008, 02:36 AM
In my opinion most people who live in our society can't use pot in moderation, and just abuse it, and in effect become paraniod and shallow minded. And as far as riding high, I just don't see the point. If you feel a need to "enhance the experience" than your missing the whole idea of being in the ocean.

p.s... THEY'RE WATCHING YOU, AHAAHAHAAHAHA

Feesh
Jun 7, 2008, 03:32 AM
right on beach break

wontonwonton
Jun 7, 2008, 03:44 AM
You are all pretty much losers.

Cant you have fun in your life without Drugs..

You must be pretty bored to have to USE pot.

Do somethng productive and make a life out of it.

You got one chance on this planet and why waste it all dazed and confused.

WB/PIRATE Surfer
Jun 7, 2008, 05:12 AM
You've been smoking since you were 12 wow just lay off the weed. like beachbreak said you can get high many other ways. Its not worth it at all.

WastedYouthCrew
Jun 7, 2008, 05:45 AM
Ban this topic stoners need to get a life

iceybeatzjosh
Jun 7, 2008, 06:02 AM
I think you guys should smoke too, you guys need to mellow down just a little.

CurtFlirt732
Jun 7, 2008, 06:49 AM
I think you guys should smoke too, you guys need to mellow down just a little.

yeah sic brah lets listen to some iceybeatz and smoke a bowl












NOT

tnich000
Jun 7, 2008, 07:34 AM
so many ripppers love to rip tubbbbbbbberrrrrssss before a session so let them and if you cant hold a fattty chron rip then prepare to be aired over peaceee

SURF4LIFE
Jun 7, 2008, 08:13 AM
it sounds like some one just discovered ganja and is in the i like the world to know i smoke mode, you'll grow out of it with age, just remember puff,puff p***.

BonerSurfs
Jun 7, 2008, 05:48 PM
Damn right Tnich000, fat rips, to the dome, oh ya!!! But really some of u guys on here need to chill for real. All this talk of i dont know what im putting in my body, sorry guys, but down here in VB, i get only the dankest of nugs, and i live in colorado during the winter, and out there i smoke medical buds. But ya straight up, u guys are taking this wayyyy to serious. Like honestly, your sitting there on a computer trying to preach to a 14 year old not to smoke pot on message board on a surfing web site. That is 100 times more lame than taking a big bong hit. But ya, you guys are wrong saying being high makes you surf bad, it does nothing to your surfing, it only makes waiting for sets a little more entertaining

smack da lip whaaapaaa
Jun 7, 2008, 07:43 PM
This is certainly an interesting thread. It really says a lot about people and their outlooks on life, good or bad, right or wrong. I do agree that this is one of the better debates on this forum, especially better than "Surfers Vs Bodyboarder" debates! My personal opinion, I don't really see anything wrong with it in general. Just be safe!

I've smoked a joint before surfing a few years back, it was fun as hell!

And yes, when I started smoking pot around the age of 17 it was like entering into a new world or culture. I grew out of that phase within a year or so.

But, the most important thing is that everyone is safe and stays safe, sober or not.

headrow
Jun 7, 2008, 09:11 PM
Dude,
You know nothing of Buddha if you think 'he' put weed here to 'get closer' to him. Buddha isn't a god. He's a guy who attained enlightenment. The first one to do it. That's it. Nothing more. No creating trees or air or weed. The only thing weed does is cloud your own path to enlightenment.

I used to smoke weed all day everyday. Trust me(I know you won't because you're 14), smoking all that weed will catch up with you eventually. Maybe by the law. Maybe your parents. Maybe you'll just decide you like smoking more than playing soccer or surfing, then you'll just be another loser stoner with nothing else to live for.

Or you'll grow outta smoking weed. Who knows. Good luck w/ life, kid. You're gonna need it...

noj
Jun 8, 2008, 12:50 AM
you guys are talking **** to a 14 year old about not ripping chron- so lame
i rip all the time too, but i think this kid is an idiot. when i was 14 i thought i knew exactly what was up, but that just made it easier for people to rip me off and sell me ****ty buds. kid, i know you don't grow your own herb so just stop youre fairy tales and nursery rhymes. you need to grow up, nug smoking ain't no contest, unless you are taking fat bingers-different story, and the earlier you learn that the better. to all you other tools, youre just pissed cuz i cut you off and shred a wave you'd fall off of your 10"0 on, all after i take a couple fat brimmers out of my 2 foot Toro, of only the finest vb ghans of coarse. i think as long as you don't tell me what you think abougt what I'm doing, and vise versa, thats whats surfings all about. leave me the f/ck alone to my own g-d damm devices.:p

yoh chill
Jun 8, 2008, 12:57 AM
Weed doesnt take away your motivation... it will just take away your motivation to do something that #$@^ing sucks

haha

http://youtube.com/watch?v=eMLSyOMiYd4

iceybeatzjosh
Jun 8, 2008, 03:58 AM
you guys are talking **** to a 14 year old about not ripping chron- so lame
i rip all the time too, but i think this kid is an idiot. when i was 14 i thought i knew exactly what was up, but that just made it easier for people to rip me off and sell me ****ty buds. kid, i know you don't grow your own herb so just stop youre fairy tales and nursery rhymes. you need to grow up, nug smoking ain't no contest, unless you are taking fat bingers-different story, and the earlier you learn that the better. to all you other tools, youre just pissed cuz i cut you off and shred a wave you'd fall off of your 10"0 on, all after i take a couple fat brimmers out of my 2 foot Toro, of only the finest vb ghans of coarse. i think as long as you don't tell me what you think abougt what I'm doing, and vise versa, thats whats surfings all about. leave me the f/ck alone to my own g-d damm devices.:p

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steelwave42
Jun 8, 2008, 04:09 AM
.................................................. .................................................. .................................................. .........
(headrow)-You know nothing of Buddha if you think 'he' put weed here to 'get closer' to him. Buddha isn't a god. He's a guy who attained enlightenment. The first one to do it. That's it. Nothing more. No creating trees or air or weed. The only thing weed does is cloud your own path to enlightenment.
.................................................. .................................................. .................................................. ..........

True.

It's funny to me how potheads link Buddhism and Hinduism to weed. In actuality if you delve into those religions you'll find that they are based on the complete opposite style of life then the one led by your average American pothead.

The Dhammapada is a good piece of Buddhist poetry, and a good translation of the Bhagavad Gita is a different facet of Indian belief (Hindu), but that is where I progressed to. Those two books really molded my life for the better so check them out Josh. I learned when read & practiced they lead you to a minimal, simple, yet happy existence, one much more fruitfull than blowing weed all day...

iceybeatzjosh
Jun 8, 2008, 04:17 AM
http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoid=35648838


In Cambodia many buddhist monks consume many types of herbs, INCLUDING marijuana. I live next to a buddhist family and they make tea from marijuana (I have no idea how) and drink it every afternoon. They say it helps them in meditation and stuff. I think god* put weed on earth for us to stay in the Buddha's spirt of serenity. I think marijuana is a essence to people who are spiritual. I am very spiritual, so I guess you guys who hate marijuana are not very spiritual. IDK

iceybeatzjosh
Jun 8, 2008, 04:19 AM
It offends me when you call me a "pot head" it is really getting old, please stop.....

CurtFlirt732
Jun 8, 2008, 04:45 AM
It offends me when you call me a "pot head" it is really getting old, please stop.....

why the hell are you even on thos forum you live in washington dc where do you surf the potomic river your a moron

Swellinfo
Jun 8, 2008, 04:50 AM
why the hell are you even on thos forum you live in washington dc where do you surf the potomic river your a moron

there are plenty of people who surf from DC, that comment was meaningless.

josh, if you think you need to drugs to be a spiritual person, then I think you are missing a big part of spirituality.

iceybeatzjosh
Jun 8, 2008, 05:00 AM
why the hell are you even on thos forum you live in washington dc where do you surf the potomic river your a moron

My family has a condo in ocean city. I live there during the summer.


and umm a pothead is someone who has weed as their # 1. priority. I have more important priorities.....

so I am not a pothead.

iceybeatzjosh
Jun 8, 2008, 05:05 AM
spirituality can differ from person to person.

CurtFlirt732
Jun 8, 2008, 05:56 AM
My family has a condo in ocean city. I live there during the summer.


and umm a pothead is someone who has weed as their # 1. priority. I have more important priorities.....

so I am not a pothead.


so your nothing but a summer time tourist get a life man put the weed down

iceybeatzjosh
Jun 8, 2008, 06:02 AM
okk sir
:)

since you say so I will.

P.E.A.C.E

I am sticking to magicseaweed.com

AveryS
Jun 8, 2008, 06:30 AM
you guys are losers...guy talking about surfing on acid ... not going to be fun when you think the water is the air and the air is the water or have a bad trip and drown... you prolly suck at surfing.. and have nothing better to do than talk bs on here.

conway
Jun 8, 2008, 06:32 AM
I am sticking to magicseaweed.com

hahaha magicseaweed doesn't tell you anything.

steamfed
Jun 8, 2008, 07:26 AM
ok i dunno about y'all but i have made it through to a pretty successful professional career blazing daily for the last 8 years of my life. i have a pretty sweet gl*** collection but use my volcano and vaporize most of the time so it doesn't affect my lungs much.

2 years ago my dad admitted he's been smoking pot my whole life but wouldn't do it with me until now because he sees i've figured it all out. he's an engineering consultant and makes bank but he's no stupid burnout.

you can blaze and be successful don't let anyone tell you otherwise. i've traveled the world enough so far to find out that a lot of people have their own devices to de-stress and marijuana is actually a finer option for you health-wise than tobacco or alcohol. some people blaze and become vegetables but that's because they're trying to be champions and blazing too much at once to show off or whatevs. or they're just weak-minded.

either way, marijuana can be an extremely useful tool (if you figure out how to use it to your advantage) and it's only viewed by the majority as a strong drug because of propaganda and they're pussies.

headrow
Jun 8, 2008, 07:43 AM
just another 2 cents here. Most likely, 95% of the people here saying that weed is horrible also have a beer after work or a gl*** of wine at dinner or get a good buzz out on a saturday night with some friends. Alcohol is 1000% more dangerous than weed and can lead to MUCH more trouble. If I had a kid and he was gonna do something, I'd much rather him have bong hits over beers.

As far as the Cambodians....I dunno about that. In all my studies of religion, only Rastafarianism actually believe weed will bring you closer to God. Plenty of religions use other hallucinogenic plants/herbs to foster spiritual experiences, but weed isn't strong like those. I don't care if it's VB nugs or NL5 or kush or Haze or white widow. I've spent enough of my time in Amsterdam to know. Anyways, sounds like the Cambodians are just a bunch of potheads

Swellinfo
Jun 8, 2008, 03:38 PM
guys,

debates are good, but lets keep things civil please. You can get your point across without calling each other names.
I dont like busting out the moderation stick!

smack da lip whaaapaaa
Jun 8, 2008, 03:41 PM
This thread is hilarious. I love how people link drug usage to spirituality based solely upon the fact that certain cultures and societies, past and present, use drugs to reach a new plane, realm, mindset, ect. Just because these societies and cultures justify their drug use practices, does not necessarily mean that they are the correct practices that everyone should follow, or that everyone should legitimize drug use. Thats just ignorant. I'm not saying that drug use for religious and spiritual reasons is wrong, what I am saying though is that if your using these methods as an excuse or reason to use drugs, and do not truly participate in these religious or spiritual practices, then you're just an ***hole for linking your drug usage to that of a religious ceremony. But then again, I suppose anyone can argue that any sort of practice in a sense can be spiritual or religious (if they argue and whine enough about it).

I enjoy smoking pot. Its relaxing, its a social experience, and, most of all, its fun as hell. Me personally, I would never claim it to be a "spiritual experience", I take it for what its worth - drugs; drug use, and nothing more. I'm not more in touch with "god" or nature, I'm just on a drug if I smoke pot or even drink a couple beers. Nothing more, nothing less. Thats how I view it.

If this kid wants to smoke his brains out, fine. If we want to ridicule him on a forum because of his original post, thats also fine. But if he wants to use "spirituality" as an excuse for being a pothead, well then he deserves all this heat.

BonerSurfs
Jun 9, 2008, 12:37 AM
you guys are losers...guy talking about surfing on acid ... not going to be fun when you think the water is the air and the air is the water or have a bad trip and drown... you prolly suck at surfing.. and have nothing better to do than talk bs on here.

Ha.. u make me laugh, i was boosting airs and getting deep pits that that session... and you obviously know nothing about drugs if u think thats anything like dropping acid. All of you are just pissed cause im a 20 year old shredder that gets to shred powder lines all winter in steamboat and surf all spring summer and fall. And now that im home for summer i really got nothing better to do but surf and get ****ed up when im not working at surf camp. So long story short Avery i would shred u after taking mad bings and dropping a tab in any size surf.

BonerSurfs
Jun 9, 2008, 12:50 AM
ok i dunno about y'all but i have made it through to a pretty successful professional career blazing daily for the last 8 years of my life. i have a pretty sweet gl*** collection but use my volcano and vaporize most of the time so it doesn't affect my lungs much.

2 years ago my dad admitted he's been smoking pot my whole life but wouldn't do it with me until now because he sees i've figured it all out. he's an engineering consultant and makes bank but he's no stupid burnout.

you can blaze and be successful don't let anyone tell you otherwise. i've traveled the world enough so far to find out that a lot of people have their own devices to de-stress and marijuana is actually a finer option for you health-wise than tobacco or alcohol. some people blaze and become vegetables but that's because they're trying to be champions and blazing too much at once to show off or whatevs. or they're just weak-minded.

either way, marijuana can be an extremely useful tool (if you figure out how to use it to your advantage) and it's only viewed by the majority as a strong drug because of propaganda and they're pussies.


So true... I smoke all the time, but i still get my **** done. Im in college i get good grades, and i probably have way more fun that all of you who surf and dont smoke. U cant tell me there is anything wrong with that, do your self a favor and live a little. I smoke and it motivates me to surf, its what i want to do when im high. It hasent effected my motivation at all, it works great for me, and when i dont smoke im to hyper anyways, im a ****ing spaz

oc sponger
Jun 9, 2008, 01:07 AM
hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha! ur from VB i bet u shred there hard all day long

AveryS
Jun 9, 2008, 01:21 AM
Ha.. u make me laugh, i was boosting airs and getting deep pits that that session... and you obviously know nothing about drugs if u think thats anything like dropping acid. All of you are just pissed cause im a 20 year old shredder that gets to shred powder lines all winter in steamboat and surf all spring summer and fall. And now that im home for summer i really got nothing better to do but surf and get ****ed up when im not working at surf camp. So long story short Avery i would shred u after taking mad bings and dropping a tab in any size surf.


Yeah cool man jealous your a 20 year old shredder...wanna see you in twenty years maybe you will wish that you were surfing with out tripn when you can barely talk, there is a guy my dad knows that did a lot of acid and now he's pretty much retarted now . oh and i would like to see you shred me to man

fourtosix
Jun 9, 2008, 01:31 AM
If this kid wants to smoke his brains out, fine. If we want to ridicule him on a forum because of his original post, thats also fine. But if he wants to use "spirituality" as an excuse for being a pothead, well then he deserves all this heat.


thank you!

BonerSurfs
Jun 9, 2008, 12:13 PM
your an idiot avery... your friends dad was probably some ****ing retard dead head eating any sort of bunk **** that came his way, its not like i eat this **** all the time, not even but a long long long shot. And your a little 14 year old kook anyways, i surfed better than you when i was 14, i teach little kids like you to surf a surf camp, so ya i get paid to surf then go and spend my money on whatever the **** i want, and if its to get high so what. Do me a favor kid and just shut your mouth, cause you will probably be 2 times the stoner i am in about 3 years.

Oh ya,OC Sponger, first of your name just reeks of lameness, secondly your dumb because i never said i get to shred hard all day, but really i just about can, all it takes is an hour and a half drive, there are literally always waves somewhere on the outerbanks. But have fun sliding around in maryland!!!

Db2k5
Jun 9, 2008, 12:20 PM
he's an engineering consultant and makes bank but he's no stupid burnout.


Haha, that is exactly who I want telling me what size trusses and I-beams I need for my building. No wonder **** is falling down these days.

Aguaholic
Jun 9, 2008, 01:46 PM
I am sticking to magicseaweed.com

haha......magicseaweed......what a waste of of a website.

beachbreak
Jun 9, 2008, 01:47 PM
I find solitude in the ocean.
Solitude on the shore.
Solitude in every wave I ride.
Nothing less,nothing more.
I find peace of mind in the music.
Peace of mind in a song.
Peace of mind in every note I ride.
It's all right,nothing wrong.
Ride the wave in to the shore.
You don't have to look no more.
Glide away and forget your
Search
For what you're lookin' for.
Droppin' in.
Cruise along.
Makin' it.
Perfect song.
You don't have to look no more.
Ride the wave in to the shore.

Aguaholic
Jun 9, 2008, 01:48 PM
Can't believe this thread is 8 pages.

stewartfortier
Jun 9, 2008, 02:32 PM
Brothers, brothers why are we all fighting here? Surfing is the ultimate peacemaker. See you in the ocean

surferboi0911
Jun 9, 2008, 03:38 PM
he's an engineering consultant and makes bank but he's no stupid burnout.

i'm gonna go out on a limb and say he designed the original IR bridge?

as borat would say, "great success!"

CurtFlirt732
Jun 9, 2008, 03:47 PM
i'm gonna go out on a limb and say he designed the original IR bridge?

as borat would say, "great success!"



hahahaha i bet and you hes more then likely lying about his dads occupation iam sure his dad has a real good job at the drive thru at sonic

oc sponger
Jun 9, 2008, 04:43 PM
dudu sorry bonersurfer dude i love drugs too we can like hit a bong sesh before we shred in VB

ecunfortunate
Jun 9, 2008, 06:59 PM
seriously who gives a **** who smokes weed and who doesnt. either way you surf you surf we shouldnt be in here talkin about what makes you a stoner and what doesnt who really gives a ****... from experience blazin in anything under head high is pretty fun after that it gets kinda sketchy

ritecoastsurfer3
Jun 9, 2008, 07:48 PM
icybeatsjosh or whatever his name is must be a narc or something i think he brought this up before? 14 and been smoking everyday for 2 years ha get serious. . . anyway swellinfo you are right, to die "for the country" before you can have a glass of wine at dinner is so ass-backwards, swellinfo your social comment is just as good as the excellent forecasts thanks

iceybeatzjosh
Jun 9, 2008, 08:28 PM
http://www.swellinfo.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1132

South Bethany
Jun 9, 2008, 08:47 PM
I am sticking to magicseaweed.com

So this was BS? bummer...

AveryS
Jun 9, 2008, 08:58 PM
your an idiot avery... your friends dad was probably some ****ing retard dead head eating any sort of bunk **** that came his way, its not like i eat this **** all the time, not even but a long long long shot. And your a little 14 year old kook anyways, i surfed better than you when i was 14, i teach little kids like you to surf a surf camp, so ya i get paid to surf then go and spend my money on whatever the **** i want, and if its to get high so what. Do me a favor kid and just shut your mouth, cause you will probably be 2 times the stoner i am in about 3 years.

Oh ya,OC Sponger, first of your name just reeks of lameness, secondly your dumb because i never said i get to shred hard all day, but really i just about can, all it takes is an hour and a half drive, there are literally always waves somewhere on the outerbanks. But have fun sliding around in maryland!!!


alright man, i think im going to stop posting on here now because its sorta gay arguing on the internet but if your into messing with kids on here and calling them kooks when you have never seen surf before im not holding you back. And ya im gunna be three times the stoner as you in a few years cause you know me and could predict that lol

aguadog22
Jun 9, 2008, 09:07 PM
your an idiot avery... your friends dad was probably some ****ing retard dead head eating any sort of bunk **** that came his way, its not like i eat this **** all the time, not even but a long long long shot. And your a little 14 year old kook anyways, i surfed better than you when i was 14, i teach little kids like you to surf a surf camp, so ya i get paid to surf then go and spend my money on whatever the **** i want, and if its to get high so what. Do me a favor kid and just shut your mouth, cause you will probably be 2 times the stoner i am in about 3 years.

Oh ya,OC Sponger, first of your name just reeks of lameness, secondly your dumb because i never said i get to shred hard all day, but really i just about can, all it takes is an hour and a half drive, there are literally always waves somewhere on the outerbanks. But have fun sliding around in maryland!!!

it sounds like you need to smoke some more pot and chill out man. who cares if you can surf better than him even when you are blazed you. just as long as its fun you

wang
Jun 9, 2008, 10:09 PM
the only danger in weed is that it is illegal.
other than that nothing is wrong with it.

I read somewhere in the washington post that weed actually can make you live longer. hiper people and people who are stuper stressed in life live shorter. and weed makes you mellow so your stress free and not hiper, so it is actually good for you body too. people smoke to solve all sorts of medical proubs. weed even brings out your creative side. and it helps me out, because I go to an art school.

There is nothing wrong with smoking as long as it is done in moderation. You just need to get the facts straight first. I am not one of these old wise men (I'm 26) but, I do have a little bit of insight. I started smoking at 13. Was a straight A student in magnet classes too. By the time I got busted, suspended, punished and arrested I was 15 years old and my grades were C+ at best. After that, I pulled my grades up and managed to make it into College by the skin of my teeth thanks to the fact that even the classes I was failing were AP classes. I stopped smoking til' I was almost done my 1st year of college. I did start smoking again and rather enjoy it. The main key, just like everyone else said..... "moderation." I watched alot of people around me fade away into the wind and get carried away with drugs. But, I do like to partake, especially on small days or after my surfer buzz from the day has faded.

While on probation as a teen I was required to take drug awareness classes and managed to learn a few things about marijuana. 1st: There are no recorded deaths from smoking pot (you have to blaze over 2lbs in one sitting.... I would pass out and also couldn't afford it) 2nd: pot doesn't make you dumber.... excess smoking does create a thin fatty layer on your brain that slows nueron firing time, causing delayed reactions of course 3rd: you cannot get $50 Q's of kush, maybe some bricked up swag. That is absolutely rediculous and would have allowed me to smoke twice as much over the years 4th: It is a gateway drug (never realized that until I watched friends I grew up smoking with ruin their lives with some crazy ****) Don't think most people would be comfortable trying things like lsd, shrooms, molly, heron, 8balls n **** if they didn't ever smoke herb before 5th: Mary is an herb put on this earth for our enjoyment, in moderation 6th: according to a Dutch study, if someone smokes constantly for numerous years for some reason they start to produce more estrogene and can even develope breasts (very rare) AND 7th: Weed is a stimulate. It does not mellow everyone out.... in general, it actually causes anxiety (whether you admit it or not) though it can be used to reduce muscle tension (hence the use of helping people with glucoma) and induce appetite (mainly for kemo patients and munchies).

If it ever does get legalized there should be an age limit on it as long as I am old enough :) We might end up saving a couple billion in court fees, police expenditures, and jail house budgets if it was legalized since most of our convicts are locked up because of that sweet sweet lady named Mary Jane

Know yourself, what you can handle and all of your limitations. To me, it's a reward after a long day, fun for a concert/festival, just a treat on a day off, or takes the place of alcohol which can be even more destructive. It's to be used in moderation and is not always necessary!

iceybeatzjosh
Jun 9, 2008, 10:10 PM
I did a little experiment today.
I went out for about 2 hours NOT high. I caught a ton of waves, but I got bored really easily.
then I went home passed a spliff with my buddies. I got high.

then I went back out....

AND IT WAS PARADISE.

I caught every wave a paddled for. and had a very fun time.
me and my buddies had a blast.

I even got some #s from some beautiful french girls.

weed is a wonderful thing.

I love you guys even though you have some anger problems

wang
Jun 9, 2008, 10:14 PM
As far as addiction goes..... I never miss a day of work because of herb or because I was drinking. But, I do get behind on my work, skip days in the office, and cancel on clients because of surfing. How healthy is that addiction. I don't know......but I ABSOLUTELY love it!!!

Swellinfo
Jun 9, 2008, 10:26 PM
any addiction can be bad...

try eating a big mac every day, and see how that works on your body.

The guy on super size me almost didn't make a month on the McDonalds diet.

wang
Jun 9, 2008, 10:43 PM
any addiction can be bad...

try eating a big mac every day, and see how that works on your body.

The guy on super size me almost didn't make a month on the McDonalds diet.

Yup, it's all about balance. I read the book of Tao and loved it. Actually made me realize a few things about myself... including not eating as much fast food despite being skinny as a rail.

BonerSurfs
Jun 10, 2008, 02:22 AM
damn right OC sponger

steamfed
Jun 10, 2008, 02:38 AM
i know it's easy to be gullible on an internet forum, but sometimes you need to believe those that speak with logic and truth.

my dad IS an engineering consultant, a rather successful one - his current projects include the new bank of america tower in midtown manhattan and the new yankees stadium.

someone said it recently - moderation. my dad blazes probably only every couple of weeks and never alone... i'm different because i blaze every day and blaze by myself whenever but i don't go so far as to get so stoned i can only sit on my butt.

i like to be lifted but not too lifted, i blaze and like to do things like play bass guitar, run errands, maybe even some real work related to my job (software development). yeah i'm a big nerd but i am also a huge stoner. that may come as a huge surprise to some of y'all but yeah, we do exist.

seriously just learn how to use pot as a positive tool and you may find yourself in a whole new lifestyle. but i will agree with others on here and say that if pot is hurting your career, grades, whatever... then stop. i have a lot of friends who like to blaze but they will admit that they feel super lazy and stupid when they do so they've either went cold turkey or cut down heavily on their sessions, which is cool, i don't think they are any less of a person for doing so.

but as for the drug haters, bible worshippers, or straight edge folk... back off. weed has never done anything but help me and i've never hurt others as a result of being stoned so stand down and stick to your own devices whatever they may be :cool:

Swellinfo
Jun 10, 2008, 02:41 AM
This is what the great Ben Harper has to say on the subject.

Let us burn one from end to end,
And pass it over to me my friend.
Burn it long, we'll burn it slow,
To light me up before I go.

If you don't like my fire, then don't come around,
'cause I'm gonna burn one down.
Yes, I'm gonna burn one down.

My choice is what I choose to do,
And if I'm causing no harm, it shouldn't bother you.

Your choice is who you choose to be,
And if you're causin' no harm, then you're alright with me.

If you don't like my fire, then don't come around,
'cause I'm gonna burn one down.
Yes, I'm gonna burn one down.

Herb the gift from the earth,
And what's from the earth is of the greatest worth.
So before you knock it try it first,
Oh, you'll see it's a blessing and not a curse.

If you don't like my fire, then don't come around,
'cause I'm gonna burn one down.
Yes, I'm gonna burn one, oohhh.

smack da lip whaaapaaa
Jun 10, 2008, 04:05 AM
but as for the drug haters, bible worshippers, or straight edge folk... back off. weed has never done anything but help me and i've never hurt others as a result of being stoned so stand down and stick to your own devices whatever they may be :cool:

I can't agree more on the idea of everyone having their own "tool" to deal with life (because if you haven't noticed, life is ****ing crazy at times). Whether its exercising, bodybuilding, models, painting, music, video games, ect. But, I don't think it was the idea of smoking pot that got people riled up on this thread, just that one kids attitude towards everyone else and even the subject in general.

I totally feel smoking pot has changed my life, only in a positive way. It hasn't turned me into a lazy bum who breaks plans with friends and family to get high. I am able to get good grades in college, and successfully work at my part time job with out any issues. Pot is totally a social drug in my opinion. I smoke maybe 4-6 times a month. There are of course, the pot heads out there who smoke all the time. A lot of these people put up the act of being a pot head, while others who smoke a few times a day are still competent, successful, coherent people.

iceybeatzjosh
Jun 10, 2008, 04:30 AM
10pages

wow

beachbreak
Jun 10, 2008, 04:51 PM
surfing is the perfect high.
clean and pure.
like music,like love.

if you need drugs you must be doing it wrong.
the beauty of it all is lessened by additional effects.

it takes a clear mind.
and a clean body.

surf alone,no leash.
that's as high as it gets.
like music,like love.

delsurfer88
Jun 10, 2008, 08:52 PM
seriously guys this is ridiculous 10 pages it was interesting at first now its just everybody arguing just let it die unless you have a something to say worth reading

Swellinfo
Jun 10, 2008, 09:00 PM
seriously guys this is ridiculous 10 pages it was interesting at first now its just everybody arguing just let it die unless you have a something to say worth reading

hypocrisy!

delsurfer88
Jun 10, 2008, 09:04 PM
your right u got me on that one

STASI
Jun 10, 2008, 09:28 PM
Hey Im going to Bonaroo. HAHA smoking stunts your growth.

...LostInFlorida
Jun 10, 2008, 10:29 PM
wow kid.... grow up... i guess you are too young to realise you are making a fool out of yourself... :eek:

wontonwonton
Jun 11, 2008, 02:05 AM
http://www.cynical-c.com/archives/bloggraphics/afro4.jpg

eastcoast_sponger
Jun 11, 2008, 04:03 AM
i agree with icey... nothin rong wit smokin it dont do nothin 2 ya... nothins better then toakin up be4 u get wet

chadbrochill93
Jun 11, 2008, 01:17 PM
I never really pay to smoke. me and my friends grow all this good stuff. and we share it with each other. If we did not have this killer spot to grow the stuff, then I will not do it. it cost like 15 $ for 2 grams. that is too much


all I am saying is that jane and stuff makes a small day like paradise.


i would like to do buisiness

Spongah
Jun 11, 2008, 01:22 PM
If you want to smoke - fine - but you have to draw a line at doing things like getting in a car and driving when you're baked. Stay home, eat Twinkies, watch movies - just don't endanger other people.

And as far as Josh being 14 and experimenting with drugs - I work with kids and sadly, a lot of them are experimenting with drugs at his age. And not just pot, either. I can't even tell you how many of them use heroin, cocaine or steal their parents prescriptions. A lot of it has to do with our puritanical society making it all that more inviting to them. The thing I don't understand is if he's truly comfortable with his drug use, as he claims to be, then why talk about it on a public forum where he's bound to meet resistance?

It sounds like an attempt to gain approval for something taboo.

wang
Jun 11, 2008, 02:37 PM
Hey Im going to Bonaroo.

Overhyped and too mainstream now. You shoulda seen it back in 2003..... as the thunderstorms moved out The Dead played an encore of Shine on You Crazy Diamond all while the sun was setting w/ swirling pastels. Magical! Then Les Claypool rocked on one stage while Danger Mouse spun on the adjacent one, battling back and forth from midnight til' 5am.

aguadog22
Jun 11, 2008, 04:40 PM
I went to see ratdog play at the tweeter center and a lightning storm rolled in. he played through the storm before the allman brothers came on. the songs he played matched up perfectly with the storm rolling in and leaving. they are awsome man

iceybeatzjosh
Jun 11, 2008, 04:58 PM
danger mouse

:)

steamfed
Jun 11, 2008, 06:01 PM
If you want to smoke - fine - but you have to draw a line at doing things like getting in a car and driving when you're baked.

I would say I drive stoned at least 50% of the time. It is 100% of the time for drives longer than 30 minutes. There is no doubt that when I'm lifted, I drive better, play video games better, play billiards/darts better... basically when I blaze and do something it helps me focus all my energy on that one thing. The beauty of this plant is that I can sit on my ass and listen to music and let my mind wander as well. Multi-tasking is a bit more challenging though. :)

windswellsucks
Jun 12, 2008, 12:22 AM
this thread is awesome. the fact that there arent going to be any waves any time soon means bong rips 4 all at my house!!

steelwave42
Jun 12, 2008, 12:53 AM
Overhyped and too mainstream now. You shoulda seen it back in 2003..... as the thunderstorms moved out The Dead played an encore of Shine on You Crazy Diamond all while the sun was setting w/ swirling pastels. Magical! Then Les Claypool rocked on one stage while Danger Mouse spun on the adjacent one, battling back and forth from midnight til' 5am.

Definately overhyped and too mainstream.

Publicity draws people that kills the community vibe with shallow moves and bad trips... Keep your car locked or you could get beat. I did go a few years back and caught a late night STS9 set and the crowd/party was insane.

wontonwonton
Jun 12, 2008, 01:03 AM
http://www.ripten.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/12/fat-guy.jpg

iceybeatzjosh
Jun 12, 2008, 03:36 AM
this thread is awesome. the fact that there arent going to be any waves any time soon means bong rips 4 all at my house!!

sounds good

:)

noj
Jun 12, 2008, 01:19 PM
If you want to smoke - fine - but you have to draw a line at doing things like getting in a car and driving when you're baked. Stay home, eat Twinkies, watch movies - just don't endanger other people.

And as far as Josh being 14 and experimenting with drugs - I work with kids and sadly, a lot of them are experimenting with drugs at his age. And not just pot, either. I can't even tell you how many of them use heroin, cocaine or steal their parents prescriptions. A lot of it has to do with our puritanical society making it all that more inviting to them. The thing I don't understand is if he's truly comfortable with his drug use, as he claims to be, then why talk about it on a public forum where he's bound to meet resistance?

It sounds like an attempt to gain approval for something taboo.

watch this video, bud. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t3zou4F00Ic
I'll give one bad story though just cuz it's kinda funny. This kid from my hood, his older brother sold me my first sack back in my day, anyways this kids brothers gave him acid once when he was like 7, and you can totally tell.
Unfortunatly bonnaroo has been ruined. Rothbury should be fun, anyone doin that one?? ps STEEL WAVE_ damn right baby, sts9 is the dillio

steamfed
Jun 12, 2008, 04:33 PM
sweet youtube video on the marijuana and driving. the british guy closes out by saying it's time to get rid of all the stereotypes about hippies and reefer madness and get down to a serious informed debate about drugs and driving.

the netherlands is one country that has it right, in my opinion. the tourism industry is excellent there and that country has nothing but flood plains (no nice mountains or beaches). why? because everyone flocks to their country to smoke pot in amsterdam and rotterdam. there are also those skeezy japanese dudes who fly in for a quick bone with a red light skank or a blue light trannie.

by the way, the country did a poll on how many actual dutch residents frequent the "coffee shops". the number: 6%. SIX PERCENT. this is a country that has experimented wildly with all drugs and they have classified each one accordingly. pot, for example, is a soft drug... while heroin, of course, is a hard drug.

the united states is far behind with many other countries in this category. just think about how much money and resources is wasted on capturing pot farmers and dealers. what they should be doing is cracking down on the crazies doing meth and blow. :mad:

BonerSurfs
Jun 12, 2008, 04:44 PM
I did a little experiment today.
I went out for about 2 hours NOT high. I caught a ton of waves, but I got bored really easily.
then I went home passed a spliff with my buddies. I got high.

then I went back out....

AND IT WAS PARADISE.

I caught every wave a paddled for. and had a very fun time.
me and my buddies had a blast.

I even got some #s from some beautiful french girls.

weed is a wonderful thing.

I love you guys even though you have some anger problems




Damn right IceyBeats, French girls are the ****, you should go for that for sure!!!

BonerSurfs
Jun 12, 2008, 04:46 PM
it sounds like you need to smoke some more pot and chill out man. who cares if you can surf better than him even when you are blazed you. just as long as its fun you

your right bro... what has come over me??

Oh ya and steelwave **** ya STS9 is the ****. and bonnaroo is to hyped for sure. All i can say STS9 at Red Rocks last year, Amazing!!! everyone on here should download those shows if your into that kind of music, because its pretty intense.

wang
Jun 12, 2008, 06:11 PM
the united states is far behind with many other countries in this category. just think about how much money and resources is wasted on capturing pot farmers and dealers. what they should be doing is cracking down on the crazies doing meth and blow. :mad:

Think about all the money our country could make and save and spend elsewhere beacuse of taxation on the drugs if they were legalized and sold nationwide. Booocoooz dollaroooz :eek:

wang
Jun 12, 2008, 06:15 PM
Definately overhyped and too mainstream.

Publicity draws people that kills the community vibe with shallow moves and bad trips... Keep your car locked or you could get beat. I did go a few years back and caught a late night STS9 set and the crowd/party was insane.

STS9 and Umphrey's McGee at Pier 6 in B-more in a couple weeks. Should be a blast. Ur right....when it gets mainstream you invite in all the people that kill the vibe. All Good Fest should be fun. That's the one I'll be hitn up!

iceybeatzjosh
Jun 12, 2008, 08:44 PM
I think the state should have the power to have drugs legal or not.
In Florida many people are getting killed over drugs. If some simple drugs like psilocybe cubensis, or marijuana were legal it can help Florida out. It will reduce much crime and violence. And the state will get a ton of money. That money could help build better schools, help homeless people.. ect.

same goes for Washington D.C. New Mexico, Arizona, Texas, and California.

Most of the other states drug violence, and money are not really an issue.

smack da lip whaaapaaa
Jun 12, 2008, 09:56 PM
I think the state should have the power to have drugs legal or not.
In Florida many people are getting killed over drugs. If some simple drugs like psilocybe cubensis, or marijuana were legal it can help Florida out. It will reduce much crime and violence. And the state will get a ton of money. That money could help build better schools, help homeless people.. ect.

same goes for Washington D.C. New Mexico, Arizona, Texas, and California.

Most of the other states drug violence, and money are not really an issue.

Much like how the drinking age is always 21 in every state while it is not a Federal law. The Federal Government gives states funding for highways, roads, schools, ect. if they comply with keeping the drinking age at 21. Same idea with drugs, there is so much funding received from the Federal Government by individual states that they just simply comply with the Federal Government's stipulations for getting that particular money. Another GREAT example is "No Child Left Behind". Schools receive Federal funding if they meet certain criteria in terms of the grades students receive on standardized tests. This sounds like an excellent idea and SOUNDS as if it would boost the quality of the education system, however there is a horrible backlash occurring. Schools are cutting out programs such as wood shop, metal shop, civic classes, electives, ect ect to make room for specialized classes designed to aid students in passing the standardized tests in order for the school to receive Federal funding. As a future social studies teacher, in my opinion, this is complete bull****. Subjects such as history, anthropology, sociology, psychology, and economics are not found on standardized tests - only reading/writing and math! How ridiculous! And then civics classes are cut from school programs and the nation wonders why only HALF the population is registered to vote and only HALF of those registered voters actually DO VOTE!

Well it seems I went off on a tangent for sure, but basically what I'm saying is the Federal Government gets its hand into everything where it shouldn't belong.

BonerSurfs
Jun 12, 2008, 10:38 PM
everyone is so concerned with narcotics and marijuana, but they forget the most dangerous drug of all. Its a drugs that is injected into the minds of our young children, Its called Social Narcotics.

windswellsucks
Jun 13, 2008, 02:57 AM
http://www.ripten.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/12/fat-guy.jpg

that dudes eyes dont look bloodshot,... imagine what he could put down after a sesh with the PHX and some purps

Swellinfo
Jun 13, 2008, 03:47 AM
it's one thing to talk about for/against smoking, it's another thing to talk about distributing on the forums. Thats not too smart... this thread is done.