Long Branch - Dead Body

[Aguaholic]

This morning a body washed up in Long Branch near Madison Avenue.
Probably one of those missing from NY over the weekend.

http://app.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080728/NEWS/80728026&referrer=FRONTPAGECAROUSEL

[CurtFlirt732]

prob washed down from NY 2 people dissapeared swimming on saturday

[Spongah]

You can send those back here, and maybe expect 2 more - 4 people died here over the weekend, all of them out "swimming" after the lifeguards left in waist high slop with 10+ kt onshores. That's on top of over 13 rescues, including one dude who rendered himself a quad by jumping headfirst into shorebreak.

WTF is wrong with people? Western LI and Queens have become the Death Zone.

[JaYbLaZeE]

People are just straight stupid sometimes.. Probly is one of those people from ny..

[Aguaholic]

People are just straight stupid sometimes.. Probly is one of those people from ny..

Heard through the grape vine that 1 washed up in Belmar as well. Don't know how true that is. Can anyone confirm that?

[Jettylife521]

Kinda nasty...decaying body in our ocean while we swim/surf. But with all do respect RIP. +

[ExtremeSpongerChicks]

Heard through the grape vine that 1 washed up in Belmar as well. Don't know how true that is. Can anyone confirm that?

Don't know about Belmar...didn't hear or see anything about a body washing up. Pretty sad and reckless.....

[...LostInFlorida]

Kinda nasty...decaying body in our ocean while we swim/surf. But with all do respect RIP. +

cause that's the worst thing you have to worry about up in 'dirty jersey'

[JaYbLaZeE]

cause that's the worst thing you have to worry about up in 'dirty jersey'

unfortunately yes it is.

[tbing]

cause that's the worst thing you have to worry about up in 'dirty jersey'

Actually, it is now-a-days. If you went swimming in NJ in the 70s it was like swimming in garbage. Compared to that, the water is crystal clear. Used to be murky brown on a GOOD day, now a good day it is actually really clean.

[Prey4Surf]

You can send those back here, and maybe expect 2 more - 4 people died here over the weekend, all of them out "swimming" after the lifeguards left in waist high slop with 10+ kt onshores. That's on top of over 13 rescues, including one dude who rendered himself a quad by jumping headfirst into shorebreak.

WTF is wrong with people? Western LI and Queens have become the Death Zone.

****ing OWW!!!!

[Spongah]

Actually, it is now-a-days. If you went swimming in NJ in the 70s it was like swimming in garbage. Compared to that, the water is crystal clear. Used to be murky brown on a GOOD day, now a good day it is actually really clean.

I think it was in the late 80s that NY & NJ started congratulating themselves because they stopped dumping sewage sludge 12 miles offshore, and moved the dumpsite 106 miles offshore and 2500m down.

Then the beaches had to close in 1987? 1988? because syringes, blood tubes and crack vials were washing up and suddenly someone asked themselves "Gee, I wonder if dumping in this ocean is really a good idea after all??"

I started surfing around the time of the beach closing saga and the local beaches were FILTHY! They weren't beach combing and the water was Shrek colored on a regular basis. Some days when I go out and look down and see crabs biting my feet, fish, seaweed, etc - I am like....damn. What a difference.

But back to the people dying/having to be rescued - I don't know what's going on lately other on a large group of people wanting to win Darwin Awards all at once or a very angry Mother Nature. I haven't been down to the Mid-Atlantic area since the Fall, but I am sure over the summer there's the same situation with little kids going out in the water with total lack of parental supervision (umm, it's not a pool, people) and people with lack of swimming skills being all badass and waiting until AFTER the lifeguards leave to go for a swim. I don't get it.

[MDSurfer]

What's the normal protocol for guards in NY and NJ? In OCM at the end of their day they start whistling in anyone, and anything in the water. This goes on for about the last five minutes of their shift and all the bathers dutifully exit the water (I suspect this is the city's plan for avoiding legal liability once the guards are off duty). As soon as the guard jumps off his stand and starts pulling it up on the beach for the night, everyone promptly re-enters the water, only this time along with surfers.

What's the routine where you are, and what is their rationale behind their routine?

[noj]

sounds like some one slept with the fishes, don giovanni style. my buddy pf is a lifeguard and he pulled up a dead body last year in vb, and he said it started foaming at the mouth when he hit land.

[tbing]

What's the normal protocol for guards in NY and NJ? In OCM at the end of their day they start whistling in anyone, and anything in the water. This goes on for about the last five minutes of their shift and all the bathers dutifully exit the water (I suspect this is the city's plan for avoiding legal liability once the guards are off duty). As soon as the guard jumps off his stand and starts pulling it up on the beach for the night, everyone promptly re-enters the water, only this time along with surfers.

What's the routine where you are, and what is their rationale behind their routine?

They don't whistle people in when they leave in Manasquan, NJ. Put up the "Lifeguard off duty, swim at own risk" signs and start pulling down the stands. By then, people are usually out of the water minus a few here and there + surfers.

[JerseySurfRat89]

Actually, it is now-a-days. If you went swimming in NJ in the 70s it was like swimming in garbage. Compared to that, the water is crystal clear. Used to be murky brown on a GOOD day, now a good day it is actually really clean.

yea now we can see all the thousands of jellyfish in there:D

[JerseySurfRat89]

They don't whistle people in when they leave in Manasquan, NJ. Put up the "Lifeguard off duty, swim at own risk" signs and start pulling down the stands. By then, people are usually out of the water minus a few here and there + surfers.

in long branch we whistle people out but we notice right when we get on the boardwalk they get back in and theres nothing you can do about that

[JaYbLaZeE]

in long branch we whistle people out but we notice right when we get on the boardwalk they get back in and theres nothing you can do about that

yep they just don't care

[tbing]

To be honest, I say its their own problem, they should understand the risk when swimming with no guards, but stuff does happen. I know for one if I saw someone screaming for help... guards or no guards I'd do my best to help them. For all I know they might not be able to swim and just got pulled out. If I'm already in the water, its that much closer than the life guards...

[JaYbLaZeE]

To be honest, I say its their own problem, they should understand the risk when swimming with no guards, but stuff does happen. I know for one if I saw someone screaming for help... guards or no guards I'd do my best to help them. For all I know they might not be able to swim and just got pulled out. If I'm already in the water, its that much closer than the life guards...

I'm sure that most would do the same thing including myself.

[MDSurfer]

I know for one if I saw someone screaming for help... guards or no guards I'd do my best to help them. For all I know they might not be able to swim and just got pulled out. If I'm already in the water, its that much closer than the life guards...

To be sure, it's hard to fathom how many lives have been saved by surfers while the guards are off duty or nowhere around. I suspect at least in part that's the reason the Ocean City, MD town council has been generally willing to work with surfers, hence the three surfing beaches and the modified beach rules (guard's discretion) on bad beach days and in the shoulder seasons.

In 46 years of surfing, I know I've helped my share of would-be swimmers to the point where they could put their feet down on the bottom and stand up on their own. Our willingness to help others speaks well of our sport.

Oh yeah, and one more question, are those jersey signs that say "Lifeguard Off Duty, swim at your own risk," written in Spanish as well?

[tbing]

At Manasuqan, no, just english. They are actually new signs too though...

[JaYbLaZeE]

In long branch they need to redo the signs in spanish also.

[tbing]

I could care less if they are in Spanish. Our language is English.

If they can't learn English why are they here? I don't wanna start a fight, but its ridiculous that we should have to learn Spanish instead of them learning our language to communicate. Like how Barack Obama said "Don't worry if they don't know English, they'll learn it over time. However, we have to make sure our children know Spanish to communicate." Thats just wrong.

If we go to a foreign country, we try to speak their language, not make them learn ours...

[smack da lip whaaapaaa]

I could care less if they are in Spanish. Our language is English.

If they can't learn English why are they here? I don't wanna start a fight, but its ridiculous that we should have to learn Spanish instead of them learning our language to communicate. Like how Barack Obama said "Don't worry if they don't know English, they'll learn it over time. However, we have to make sure our children know Spanish to communicate." Thats just wrong.

If we go to a foreign country, we try to speak their language, not make them learn ours...

They will learn English in time. History repeats itself and this has all happened before. These immigrants of the 21st century are not strictly all Mexican, a lot of them come from all parts of Latin America and South America. Sounds very familiar doesn't it? Sounds like when European's began to immigrate to the United States in the late 19th and early 20th centuries. The first generation European immigrants could not speak a lick of English. These European immigrants came form a poor background and came to America to find work and to prosper. These European immigrants also lived in neighborhoods of their own nationalities. This all sounds strikingly familiar. Give these Hispanic immigrants a generation or so, their children and children's children will speak English as fluently as anyone else we all know. I know a lot of my "white" friends have different European backgrounds - Irish, English, French, German, Italian ect. ect. and you would've never guessed 3 or 4 generations ago their families came right off the boat. This is what makes America great.