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njsurfer17
Sep 16, 2008, 09:57 PM
are carbon fiber boards worth the money

Njsurf14
Sep 16, 2008, 10:58 PM
i surfed on one and it felt exactly like a tuflite board ,,, and when you hit the lip all you hear is BOOOM like an ecko in the board its wierd but gains speed really really easly

jay cagney
Sep 16, 2008, 11:43 PM
just don't hit anything hard or there goes a lot of money

njsurfer17
Sep 17, 2008, 12:34 AM
thanks..i broke my firewire in half while surfing hannah so idk what to get yet...guess i will chill with my retrofish until i decide

wesman944
Sep 17, 2008, 02:17 AM
yea, my firewire is toast, def thinkin about getting a carbon fiber board, or mabe even one of those resin8's, all i got to ride is my lost rnf, it will do for the meantime.

DavidOlya
Sep 17, 2008, 03:30 AM
I was interested in those boards too. From what I read they sound light, responsive, and fast. But I too wanted to hear a little feedback on them before I invested so much money.
Njsurf14 is the only response I have seen from someone that actually rode one but was a little vague as to whether or not he/she was impressed and thought it was worth the dough.

avisorider
Sep 17, 2008, 01:16 PM
I have two carbonfibers a 5,8" rnf and a lost 6,1" there great boards fast and light i would say if you have the money dont think twice about getting one i would go on aviso website and maybe order one from them because the surfshops around here arent carrying that many anymore to expensive i guess also make sure you read the info on how to take care of them because the first one i had i didnt take the drain plug out enough and when i dropped in on a wave it snapped to much pressure good thing though aviso replaced it for free and no questions asked the only down fall to them is if you wipeout and the board hits you the board hurts you cause they dont have to much give other then that its a great board and you should buy one today.

scotty
Sep 17, 2008, 03:48 PM
I was interested in those boards too. From what I read they sound light, responsive, and fast. But I too wanted to hear a little feedback on them before I invested so much money.
Njsurf14 is the only response I have seen from someone that actually rode one but was a little vague as to whether or not he/she was impressed and thought it was worth the dough.

Are you talking firewires? Njsurf14 mentioned both CF and Firewire.

As far as being light or fast, Firewires are made from the same basic materials as other EPS boards using 1 lb foam...foam, stringers, resin, and cloth. They're lighter than a poly board, not lighter than other EPS boards.

As far as being fast goes, speed is about planing surface and rocker - not stringers. Any poly or EPS board with the same hull design will be just as fast.

From riders I've spoken to, the difference is in the flex characteristics during turns.

Blumkin80
Sep 17, 2008, 03:54 PM
I have two carbonfibers a 5,8" rnf and a lost 6,1" there great boards fast and light i would say if you have the money dont think twice about getting one i would go on aviso website and maybe order one from them because the surfshops around here arent carrying that many anymore to expensive i guess also make sure you read the info on how to take care of them because the first one i had i didnt take the drain plug out enough and when i dropped in on a wave it snapped to much pressure good thing though aviso replaced it for free and no questions asked the only down fall to them is if you wipeout and the board hits you the board hurts you cause they dont have to much give other then that its a great board and you should buy one today.

I heard they are real quick, but don have a lot of flex. You can ride a lot shorter than your typical poly resin boards because of the added buoyancy. I would stick with poly boards...there is a good reason so many pros still ride the old school polyester sticks. Plus if you ding...you better know a boat repair guy! A lot of shops won't touch 'em

aka pumpmaster
Sep 17, 2008, 04:09 PM
very few people in the mid-Atlantic have the skills to notice the difference between a carbon fiber board and a poly or eps board.

scotty
Sep 17, 2008, 05:02 PM
very few people in the mid-Atlantic have the skills to notice the difference between a carbon fiber board and a poly or eps board.

yeah - in general were a pretty clueless bunch - people who can't connect two turns together on a waist high wave go and on about parabolic stringers, quad fins, eps foam, epoxy. My guess is half of them couldn't tell you about nose width or rocker...two things that have about 10 times more relevance to them than the exotic materials. Surf shops have pretty much figured this out as well...selling EPS quads to guys who never learned how to ride their poly summer squashs....hey four fins is way faster!

njsurfer17
Sep 17, 2008, 05:52 PM
I have two carbonfibers a 5,8" rnf and a lost 6,1" there great boards fast and light i would say if you have the money dont think twice about getting one i would go on aviso website and maybe order one from them because the surfshops around here arent carrying that many anymore to expensive i guess also make sure you read the info on how to take care of them because the first one i had i didnt take the drain plug out enough and when i dropped in on a wave it snapped to much pressure good thing though aviso replaced it for free and no questions asked the only down fall to them is if you wipeout and the board hits you the board hurts you cause they dont have to much give other then that its a great board and you should buy one today.
do they ride the same as a normal shortboard... lik should i get it smaller or bigger than my normal board

avisorider
Sep 17, 2008, 10:06 PM
they ride the same as a normal board you can actually pop quicker on these boards then a regular board so if you want to go with bout an inch or two smaller thats what i did i think the next one im getting will be the 6,0" cole fire fly it looks like a sick board with the quad fin set up

njsurfer17
Sep 18, 2008, 01:17 AM
yeah..i was looking at the 5 10 jj and the 5 11 surf prescription

mattlocker31
Sep 18, 2008, 03:03 AM
whatever you do don't buy an al merrick unless it specificly says it was shaped by hand or was made before 07. they sold to burton and i heard that the quality is going down. they are doing alot of macine shaping. my good friend just broke one after only like a month in a half

jGray
Sep 18, 2008, 04:53 AM
one of my buddys was given one from lost to try out before they came out. well just say dont break it, cause after that it turns into an anchor. its hollow so it will fill with water super quick. you mine as well leave it in the ocean as a ship wreck than trying to pull it out. trust me.

aka pumpmaster
Sep 18, 2008, 02:05 PM
I just can't see why anyone would shill out that kind of money for a board that performs the same as a standard poly board. I know a few people that have them and they all say avisio shortboards aren't worth the money.

avisorider
Sep 18, 2008, 03:02 PM
well the friends you have are idiots the reason for buying them is they dont break they dont say the board performs any better then a regular board. your paying for a board that will last for years i dropped in on a shorebreak wave one time right on sand and nothing happened to the board not even a pressure dent.

darippah
Sep 18, 2008, 03:31 PM
how do you find the prices on these boards?

aka pumpmaster
Sep 18, 2008, 07:03 PM
sounds more like rampant yuppy-ism to me

avisorider
Sep 18, 2008, 09:02 PM
let me see you ride one and then you honestly tell me if you wouldnt want one

njsurfer17
Sep 18, 2008, 10:53 PM
i saw a few stories of them breaking but they are prob kooks... u have to let cooler air into the board before you surf it right?

avisorider
Sep 19, 2008, 01:44 PM
yeah just go to aviso site and thhey tell you how to work the drain plugs i live 5 minutes from the beach so i put my drain plug in before i drive over and then walk down to the water set the board in for bout a minute and pull out take out the drain plug put it back in and then i go rip

aka pumpmaster
Sep 19, 2008, 02:54 PM
let me see you ride one and then you honestly tell me if you wouldnt want one


I've ridden 2 and don't think they are worth the extra money. if they were priced similar to poly boards I might buy one buy the cost to benefit just isn't there.

...LostInFlorida
Sep 20, 2008, 11:41 PM
i don't think half of these people know what they're talking about.

with that said, i have an AVISO, 5'10" mayhem shape, performance shortboard...
it retails for around $1200, i paid $800 for mine.... (gotta love working at a surf shop)

for the first month i had it, i hated it... getting used to the flex, and the quick responce the board has... it was just weird getting used to it.

as for people saying it is "stiff", well,... i don't think you know your butt from your balls...
these boards have an unbelievable amount of flex.

i've had mine for a little over 1 year, without a single pressure ding... NOT ONE!
up until about 2 weeks ago... these genius of a grom thought it would be a good idea to drop in on me, i did a floater on the section that he closed out, but he didn't make the drop...

i air-dropped about 3 feet right on to his fin, and it punched a hole about 4 inches long and 1 inch wide in the hull of my board...

it didn't "sink like an anchor" like someone said.... it didn't even sink for that matter... it just became very sluggish, kinda like trying to ride a SevenSurf super fish (piece of sh!t)

some good ole fiberglass and black spray paint, and she's as good as new...
it doesn't take a rocket scientist to fix a board.


so basically, if you've got a grand to drop out of your ass, do it... especially if you're like me and buckle 3 fiberglass boards a year.

njsurfer17
Sep 20, 2008, 11:48 PM
thanks..do u put the leash on the drain plug??

...LostInFlorida
Sep 21, 2008, 12:04 AM
thanks..do u put the leash on the drain plug??

yeah, use a leash string then just put your leash on that.... the drain plugs are very strong and i've never had a problem.