Swellinfo, an idea!

[OBlove]

Swellinfo, I am thinking of putting together an extra annual (once every of couple years) surf related activity (not a contest). The location, to be announced. The biggest, hollow, heavey swell of the year at the best possible spot! (The Shrine with all intense purposes will suit the need) It will be an invite only taking an Eddie Idea into Delmarva. It would be competitive only for the simple fact that it will be on video and photographed from every possible angle. No judges, but heats scheduled. The video is shot and printed or dubbed via the internet. The kiddies on the net vote what they think is the best surfer/booger, big air, carve, tube, hack, best photograph, best artwork, best short video etc. The call for the show will only happen when the moons align...and they do once a year. The waiting period will need to be during a warmer time. I think, May-October. Alternate boogie heats and standup heats. Awards to be given by surf shops or local community stores after the event goes down. Surf shops will also be responsible for invites being they are giving the awards. I know you and I have been pondering this idea for a while and I feel this is the best idea I have come up with yet! It will draw high amounts of net traffic and independent levels of performance watermen. An off note, I am putting together a paddle board race series for this summer that I will let you know about soon!

[Swellinfo]

I haven't really been pondering a contest since the RCBB days. If you can get sponsorship support, then you can make it happen, but contests without incentives are hard to create. Please email me privately, if you want to talk about logistics of getting this on Swellinfo.

[SethC]

Sounds like a sweet idea. Sponsors will be needed though. Best idea is to talk to local shops like K-Coast and then have larger companies like O'NEILL to start supporting this event. I think if it came together it could be killer.

[Swellinfo]

Now that I think about this, I think red bull put on a contest similar to this, where it was one on one heats, and the contest was judged afterwards via the video footage. Its definitely a cool idea.

[wbsurfer]

yeah this is defeintly a good idea. but as someone said above me you need to start local with local shops to sponsor then move up to corporate sponsors like oneill or other manufactures. but if your sponsored by a big corporate bussines then get them cause it gets their name out. but even if your not sponsored surfing companies probably sponsor it to gte the companies name out and give away free stuff. just give me a town and date then ill make time and compete.

[Yamaha racer 686]

this sounds like a great idea.

tho all invite might leave a few good unknowns out of the vid. not me i suck still but maybe 4-5 wildcard spots to battle for in the morning.

radio stations, local surf equipment makers are a great way to get sponsors on board.

maybe a jam session format?

longboards shortboards, boogieboards, doors, rafts.

get awards for oddest board, things like that. have fun with it. the more that is included the bigger and more attention it will bring.

[mikedub]

I like the idea, sounds like a Jam Session.

[JerseySurfRat89]

uhm i forget what it was called but i saw a show on RUSH about the same exact thing...just six guys paddling out...getting every wave on film..and awarding the best barrel..craziest turn..sickest air..ect. afterward

[wontonwonton]

thats a sick idea.
BUT>>>>
the spot chosen may fire and then die with tide wind and all that crap

heats would have to be larger numbers of people. or at different peaks

I think a contest for best waves of the day would be cool. with the whole video angle thing. and then judging after

just ideas. would be cool if it all came together.
would be cool to get some big name bbers and surfers in it.

[wontonwonton]

Red Bull 5X

http://redbull5x.com/contact.php

got a free dvd once and it was the footie from one in indo. kinda cool

[DPR]

U gota show the sponcer that people will cum and watch but i think red bull sponcers things like this. I saw videos of them sponcering ramdom things before

[Swellinfo]

U gota show the sponcer that people will cum and watch but i think red bull sponcers things like this. I saw videos of them sponcering ramdom things before

if your main audience is watching on the internet, it doesn't matter how many people are on the beach.

[conway]

This is a dumb idea. An internet surf contest? I don't see the point. Why don't you just let people come watch in real life?

[OBlove]

The industry revolves, at least the local industry around local surfers who surf. Who trees off from there. Conway, ask your self a question; Where can the industry get the most amount of TRAFFIC in a short amount of time? The answer would have to be from a surfer stand point...from a reliable surf forcast emporium that has equal support for each other. One will run off the other equally as important. Sure, kooks by stuff in shops and my idea is thrown up into the media and now I am getting lots of feedback. I am not trying to make money off of this. I never did in the past. I just made some people stoked. Your point is come to the beach and check it out. VALID. But a waiting period of May-October means that only the hard core surfers/boogers are going to ALL be there that particular day that it gets the call...if it gets the call? The forecast would have to be eddie worthy...in DELMARVA'S highest standard. Off shore, Heaving, ALL DAY sun up to sun down. If the idea is stupid, tell us what you would change and why. Make our point valid. Or go out with your friends and do the same thing. Swellinfo and myself are looking at the BIGGEST picture, and that is THE INTERNET! You may say, where does OBlove come into play here. I want to incorporate artist as surfers and surfers as artist, videographers, photographers, and just plain old stoke. This would be an event that revolves around the simple crack (irish talk), I have co-run some of the biggest sponge events on the coast. One thing I realized is that I never had an event reach the status that I wanted. Eliminate judges all togther and I solved the proplem. Because in the end, its all about having fun.

[tommyh]

by having the surf shops do the inviting, there won't be any variety in the participants, it will be the same ESA/surf shop employee folk we always see...

[Yamaha racer 686]

by having the surf shops do the inviting, there won't be any variety in the participants, it will be the same ESA/surf shop employee folk we always see...

thats where the wildcard idea comes in. or having say 20-30 guys go at it another day to try and get a spot.

i think it would be cool to have pre events earlier in the year, where unknown surfers can battle it out, get voted for online, and the top 5-10 get to go to the big show.

from an event stand point its also a good way to get noticed. slowly building attention so when the big day hits everyone is watching.

tho with such a big window i could see it hard for some people to get off of work or stuff like that.

internet is a great idea. huge base of people from all over.

plus if this is a success it could become an annual thing.

[conway]

You're right, I wasnt very clear. This idea just doesn't sound much like a realistic contest to me. Like for instance, you can get a sick photo but not make the rest of the manuver, and in a real contest situation, you wouldnt get points for that failed manuver. But if i photographer got the shot an instant before it got all squirelly, then the voter online would have no way of knowing he didnt make it, thus making a decision without taking that into consideration. My point is, the surfer who surfs best in the contest may not win based on stirictly photos. The video idea would counteract that, but it doesn't compare to an actual judged heat to determine surfing talent on the specific day the contest is held. So my second point is the video/photo thing isn't objective enough; it wouldnt convey who the best surfer was on that given day. Also, a six month waiting period? This isnt Hawaii. We all know how sick and gnarly jerz gets, but its still the east coast. Would this contest be for strictly local guys or would pros be invited? Alas, i think your idea is more of a novelty than a viable contest, similar to that kickflip thing volcom did, or the kustom airstrike. Except on a smaller, ****ty east cost scale.
But by all means, waste your time and money setting up a logistic near impossibility. Have fun.

[wbsurfer]

You're right, I wasnt very clear. This idea just doesn't sound much like a realistic contest to me. Like for instance, you can get a sick photo but not make the rest of the manuver, and in a real contest situation, you wouldnt get points for that failed manuver. But if i photographer got the shot an instant before it got all squirelly, then the voter online would have no way of knowing he didnt make it, thus making a decision without taking that into consideration. My point is, the surfer who surfs best in the contest may not win based on stirictly photos. The video idea would counteract that, but it doesn't compare to an actual judged heat to determine surfing talent on the specific day the contest is held. So my second point is the video/photo thing isn't objective enough; it wouldnt convey who the best surfer was on that given day. Also, a six month waiting period? This isnt Hawaii. We all know how sick and gnarly jerz gets, but its still the east coast. Would this contest be for strictly local guys or would pros be invited? Alas, i think your idea is more of a novelty than a viable contest, similar to that kickflip thing volcom did, or the kustom airstrike. Except on a smaller, ****ty east cost scale.
But by all means, waste your time and money setting up a logistic near impossibility. Have fun.

i hope you know that the colcom kickflipoff is still going on. since there hasent yet been a person to succeed.

[conway]

i hope you know that the colcom kickflipoff is still going on. since there hasent yet been a person to succeed.

it ended a whole back, warren smith won it

[Aguaholic]

it ended a whole back, warren smith won it

Nah, I don't think anyone has won yet.

[wbsurfer]

Nah, I don't think anyone has won yet.

yeah aguaholic is right because volcom and transworld surf would have put a whole 2 page spread in transworld surf magazine and i gte bthem every month and no one nasent won it yet.

[DPR]

if your main audience is watching on the internet, it doesn't matter how many people are on the beach.

Oh u mean puttting it on youtube to watch? and why do people write paragraphs no one wants to read that much.

[conway]

Nah, I don't think anyone has won yet.

there was an article in surfing a few months ago that said warren smith won it and there was a sequence and everything.

[mikedub]

there was an article in surfing a few months ago that said warren smith won it and there was a sequence and everything.

Wrong.
http://www.volcom.com/blogs/blog.asp?blogID=17

[adowcett]

"To date, no one has ever documented a cleanly landed kickflip on a surfboard"
http://www.volcom.com/blogs/blog.asp?blogID=17

Although Warren Smith did come pretty close.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3uGXY5j4VaQ

You would probably spend 10,000 on boards to win that.

And in regards to the actual topic, I think it would be nice if there was a contest actually held in good surf on the east coast, but so many people have prior commitments I doubt it would be plausible to have all the best talent there at a moments notice. Doesn't sound like a bad idea though, if you could work out the logistics of all the waves being filmed without bias. And only allow photographs if they're accompanied by the whole wave on film and if they allow for a different perspective. It would be nice to feel like you had a say in the judging though.

[OBlove]

You're right, I wasnt very clear. This idea just doesn't sound much like a realistic contest to me. Like for instance, you can get a sick photo but not make the rest of the manuver, and in a real contest situation, you wouldnt get points for that failed manuver. But if i photographer got the shot an instant before it got all squirelly, then the voter online would have no way of knowing he didnt make it, thus making a decision without taking that into consideration. My point is, the surfer who surfs best in the contest may not win based on stirictly photos. The video idea would counteract that, but it doesn't compare to an actual judged heat to determine surfing talent on the specific day the contest is held. So my second point is the video/photo thing isn't objective enough; it wouldnt convey who the best surfer was on that given day. Also, a six month waiting period? This isnt Hawaii. We all know how sick and gnarly jerz gets, but its still the east coast. Would this contest be for strictly local guys or would pros be invited? Alas, i think your idea is more of a novelty than a viable contest, similar to that kickflip thing volcom did, or the kustom airstrike. Except on a smaller, ****ty east cost scale.
But by all means, waste your time and money setting up a logistic near impossibility. Have fun.

A novelty is what we are looking for.

Off the point, why do you use the word "Like?" Like are you like a valley girl by any chance (see how stupid it sounds?)

Back to the point, The idea of an artist scoring a prize for a photo, is an award presented to the artist for their particular craft, not the surfer. So a surfer that didn't get the shot, doesn't get penalized. Are you getting the point? This is for delmarva surfers, at a delmarva spot. If you are not from here, then don't worry about it. Its meant to be a community project, not a b!tch and moan gag that people like yourself turn in out to be. All of your comments relate strictly back to the core area of judging. The very principle that I am trying to get away from.

Life is unfair and someone who thinks they should be invited might not get invited. That is life. The logistics of this are out in the open. We will collect ideas and see if it turns into something worth going for? You are not GETTING THE POINT and my reason is that NO ONE is looking for the best surfer on the best day. That is crap and everyone is over that very elementary concept. It is an idea that has the community all playing off of each other with a higher thinking art aspect stirred into the mix. Surfers bye things from shops, shops sell to surfers, surfers check forecasts, forecast tells you were to surf, surf shops advertise on forecast, people in the community help run the small surfing population that is a sub-culture within itself. And if you can't read this paragraph in less then a minute, you should have surfed less and got an education!

[conway]

About the volcom thing, I thought he did make it, woops. And OBlove, why don't you just chill the **** out and stop being a pompous asshole. I just was trying to understand your concept and obviously i didnt fully understand it. Sorry if i bunched those panties of yours based on my assinine opinion.
Off the point, do you point out the slightest use of slang as a way too show how smart you are? Did you go to Harvard? Are you an author? Jeez that was unneccasary. Asshole.

[rodndtube]

The "activity" sounds interesting. I like the idea that it is not a "contest" which rules out ESA and sponsorships. Nonetheless, you probably need to consider permitting and insurance issues which based on your prior experience you probably have already thought about.

The open season is probably too long and not realistic for the DelMarVa (Delaware, Maryland and Chincoteague beaches?). Best "big swell window" for this event is September-November, which combines tropical storm season and warmer water Nor'Easters, and is hands down the most consistent swell season. Probably need to narrow down the consideration of which beaches since we're dealing with many different jurisdictions and entities.

The idea of seeking out sponsors, local, regional, national and international starts to break down the spirit of this event of an exposition of DelMarVa larger wave surfing. Along these lines I like the idea of a completely open "cash registration" event: take some amount, e.g., 20 percent off the top, to cover costs and then divide winning purses among the top 5 riders within each waveriding category based on the division's cash pool. I'm not too worried about too many participants since on most 8 to 10 foot plus days there are not that many folks actually out in the water, there isn't a $1K purse and you're limiting participation to MD/DE/VA residents.

YouTube posting of all rides and judging sounds like an innovative way to go. Yes, you can have a viewer panel, but I also like the idea of a previously established panel of judges.

[OBlove]

good points rodn. all things considered, i think most people are seeing the big picture now. sep-november is best bet for sure!

[AThreeHourTour]

Life is unfair and someone who thinks they should be invited might not get invited. That is life. The logistics of this are out in the open. We will collect ideas and see if it turns into something worth going for? You are not GETTING THE POINT and my reason is that NO ONE is looking for the best surfer on the best day. That is crap and everyone is over that very elementary concept. It is an idea that has the community all playing off of each other with a higher thinking art aspect stirred into the mix. Surfers bye things from shops, shops sell to surfers, surfers check forecasts, forecast tells you were to surf, surf shops advertise on forecast, people in the community help run the small surfing population that is a sub-culture within itself. And if you can't read this paragraph in less then a minute, you should have surfed less and got an education!

My friend, your grammatical soapbox is riddled with punctuation and usage holes. A period (.) should follow a statement, not a question mark (?). You've used "bye" as the abbreviated form of "goodbye" instead of it's verb form, "buy," as in purchase, yet not "by," as a common preposition. And I see you've already corrected the spelling of your post earlier...

Let he who is without education cast the first stone...

[wbsurfer]

My friend, your grammatical soapbox is riddled with punctuation and usage holes. A period (.) should follow a statement, not a question mark (?). You've used "bye" as the abbreviated form of "goodbye" instead of it's verb form, "buy," as in purchase, yet not "by," as a common preposition. And I see you've already corrected the spelling of your post earlier...

Let he who is without education cast the first stone...

athreehourtour justm pulled a card out of a deck what did it say it said NERD.we is surfers not english teachers.if i wanted to be a teacher i would shoot myself since i hate skool. and all i do is dream of the waves for the day and have done all the tricks in the book to get out of skool and surf so stop being a nerd on a surf forum. im just messing with you athreehourtour its all in the fun of cabin fever.

[adowcett]

My friend, your grammatical soapbox is riddled with punctuation and usage holes. A period (.) should follow a statement, not a question mark (?). You've used "bye" as the abbreviated form of "goodbye" instead of it's verb form, "buy," as in purchase, yet not "by," as a common preposition. And I see you've already corrected the spelling of your post earlier...

Let he who is without education cast the first stone...

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[AThreeHourTour]

athreehourtour justm pulled a card out of a deck what did it say it said NERD.we is surfers not english teachers.if i wanted to be a teacher i would shoot myself since i hate skool. and all i do is dream of the waves for the day and have done all the tricks in the book to get out of skool and surf so stop being a nerd on a surf forum. im just messing with you athreehourtour its all in the fun of cabin fever.

Ahhhh, the uninformed and uneducated youth of today. Not a teacher by any means, but good try. You see, what I was doing was showing Mr. Oblove that in his attempt to challenge, or call others out, he was in fact diminishing his own intelligence.

My advice to you little man..I'd say if you're not fully sponsored, or have industry name sponsors chasing you down already, stay in school and go to college so that you can afford to enjoy and do what you love for the rest of your life without any worries. You should ask around the message boards about an old OC local by the name of Max Hoshino before you go equating "nerd" to educated folk...

[wbsurfer]

Ahhhh, the uninformed and uneducated youth of today. Not a teacher by any means, but good try. You see, what I was doing was showing Mr. Oblove that in his attempt to challenge, or call others out, he was in fact diminishing his own intelligence.

My advice to you little man..I'd say if you're not fully sponsored, or have industry name sponsors chasing you down already, stay in school and go to college so that you can afford to enjoy and do what you love for the rest of your life without any worries. You should ask around the message boards about an old OC local by the name of Max Hoshino before you go equating "nerd" to educated folk...

well you see i actually do have a sponsors chasing me down. but dont worry ill stay in skool and get my high skool deploma.

[conway]

well you see i actually do have a sponsors chasing me down. but dont worry ill stay in skool and get my high skool deploma.

"high skool deploma"
I don't even need to say anything for this one...

[conway]

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agreed, epic fail for mr olive

[AThreeHourTour]

well you see i actually do have a sponsors chasing me down. but dont worry ill stay in skool and get my high skool deploma.

"A sponsors" chasing you down???? Oh, do tell who the lucky manufacturer/s is/are so I can look for you in their next movie throwin down radical aerial maneuvers!!!!

[adowcett]

well you see i actually do have a sponsors chasing me down. but dont worry ill stay in skool and get my high skool deploma.

Bull****



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[scrutch123]

All of the childish arguing aside... I really like this idea. I think it is a great idea, not only as a local surfer, but also as a photographer. Even if prizes werent offered for the best shots, it would still be a great way for people to go out there and get some great footage and film.

[Ricky Data]

Gotta get some bands out there. Live music would make it way better.

[rodndtube]

Gotta get some bands out there. Live music would make it way better.

Yeah, right. Just bring some batteries, your i-Pod and favorite portable i-Pod stereo. You know how our swell windows are for the good and larger stuff... 3 to 4 hours, maybe 6 hours on a good day.

[Salty J]

Swellinfo, I am thinking of putting together an extra annual (once every of couple years) surf related activity (not a contest). The location, to be announced. The biggest, hollow, heavey swell of the year at the best possible spot! (The Shrine with all intense purposes will suit the need) It will be an invite only taking an Eddie Idea into Delmarva. It would be competitive only for the simple fact that it will be on video and photographed from every possible angle. No judges, but heats scheduled. The video is shot and printed or dubbed via the internet. The kiddies on the net vote what they think is the best surfer/booger, big air, carve, tube, hack, best photograph, best artwork, best short video etc. The call for the show will only happen when the moons align...and they do once a year. The waiting period will need to be during a warmer time. I think, May-October. Alternate boogie heats and standup heats. Awards to be given by surf shops or local community stores after the event goes down. Surf shops will also be responsible for invites being they are giving the awards. I know you and I have been pondering this idea for a while and I feel this is the best idea I have come up with yet! It will draw high amounts of net traffic and independent levels of performance watermen. An off note, I am putting together a paddle board race series for this summer that I will let you know about soon!


Please walk away from surfing now.....forever. Please.

[tommyh]

Good luck having a waiting period like that on Delmarva, especially during those months.

[OBlove]

Please walk away from surfing now.....forever. Please.

I have thought about walking away from surfing, but I like getting barreled. See, with waves like this on hidden bars that I often surf alone, walking away just isn't an option to me! The way I see it is, an idea stands the test of possible monumental potential. Asking someone to quit? That is the easy way out of life. I'll keep getting tubed! Thanks though...307

[Salty J]

I have thought about walking away from surfing, but I like getting barreled. See, with waves like this on hidden bars that I often surf alone, walking away just isn't an option to me! The way I see it is, an idea stands the test of possible monumental potential. Asking someone to quit? That is the easy way out of life. I'll keep getting tubed! Thanks though...

Wow that shot is wonderful. If only you had the shot covered from 8 different angles including a helmet cam, board cam, three water shots, two beach shots and a pic on google earth. Yes! I can see it now... the thumping music blaring from the beach... your bro's my bro's maybe some ho's and the entire mid-atlantic community cheering you on. Go bro go! Only then could we and you capture the entire radical moment you entered the barrel of a chest high Delmarva screamer! then we could all vote on the most radical aspect of your radicalness! Are you wearing a waterproof mp3 player too? because that would really make it epic. Are you gone yet?

[adowcett]

Were you constipated that day?