Gaining speed backside(short board)

[SearchForShacks]

whats the best way to gain speed backside?.. and any tips on bottom turns would be appreciated as well

[Shadow Surfer]

Practice...practice.

[SearchForShacks]

i mean like pump or what? i just always seem to get to low or kick out whenever i try to pump

[GnarActually]

this is going to be hard to explain. but i had the same problem but figured it out. i know i lost all of my speed when i stood up going backside, so i started taking a more horizontal approach then i stood up which helped my speed in the beginning. i then go to the bottom of the wave, and if i see a section i want to hit down the line, i bring my whole body to the top of the wave then push down to the bottom untill i get the speed i want. ( i do it differently then going front side, and i probably sound stupid trying to explain this). for my bottom turn going back side i tend to go more vertical, but its important to not want to long to do your hit or you get off the wave. when on the wave from the bottom, put all pressure on your back foot and turn the hips,show some steez, fully rotate, and *turn your inside shoulder and open up to the wave*. i tried. hopefully you get something from me rambling on.

[SearchForShacks]

thanks that helped a little bit.. im pretty good frontside .. i think that bit about opening up to the wave will help

[tbing]

Just practice the same stuff you do frontside. Its the same idea. Us telling you how to do it won't help at all. Only way to get better is with practice.

[SearchForShacks]

yea i know.. just need more waves to be able to..

[Northender]

i got this from surfline trick tips, take just another second when you are about to take a bottom turn, it gives you more speed and more time to think about what is going to happen next. http://www.surfline.com/surflinetv/trick-tips/generating-speed_14307 surfline trick tips on how to generate speed with mick and http://www.surfline.com/surflinetv/trick-tips/bottom-turns_13434 and more trick tips anout bottom turns

[jGray]

I can only surf backside cause all i ever surf is rights. You have to learn to Pump backside and have a good bottom turn. You need a good bottom to produce.

[aka pumpmaster]

I've found that for most conditions around our area, a bottom turn is a speed killer so I would avoid them unless it's big. most guys do what they see in vids and whatnot and try to emulate that but our waves are so much smaller.

[SearchForShacks]

yea i relize its speed killer but its a nessisity for big manuvers off the top right?

[tbing]

If you can do it right, its necessary, otherwise its just a waste. The idea of it, is to get your momentum moving downwards to generate speed with gravity, then when you push hard, the angular velocity will give you speed to turn back up the wave and crank it off the lip. If you can't get the turn right, you lose all your speed. If you do it right, you can gain speed

[aka pumpmaster]

should clarify...i meant a bottom turn on the drop. too many people try to crank a big bottom turn on the drop and around here it just doesn't work in most conditions. now, after pumping a ton to get some speed the turn is the set up for alot of stuff.

[BonerSurfs]

Backside surfing is much more vertical than front side surfing, and you lead with your shoulder. Enough said.

[Shakagrom]

and when pumping don't pump with a split-legged stance wayyyy at the tail of your board. Aside from not gaining any speed, you'll look ridiculous for trying so hard and not getting anywhere.

And when surfing backside, (to gain speed) always face your shoulders forward. square up- more athletic- easier to maneuver= more speed. and like everyone said, when turning, lead with your shoulder. and when you do a reentry off the top lean forward a little on the drop to gain speed... always be moving around on your board, there's a reason you're feet aren't strapped in place.

[wbsurfer]

and when pumping don't pump with a split-legged stance wayyyy at the tail of your board. Aside from not gaining any speed, you'll look ridiculous for trying so hard and not getting anywhere.

And when surfing backside, (to gain speed) always face your shoulders forward. square up- more athletic- easier to maneuver= more speed. and like everyone said, when turning, lead with your shoulder. and when you do a reentry off the top lean forward a little on the drop to gain speed... always be moving around on your board, there's a reason you're feet aren't strapped in place.

my big thing is when surfing backside i use my hand or feet? the reason for this is i can get the turns going frontside but i just cant get them going backside.

[superbust]

yea just think about how you pump frontside. lift up the nose and bring it up the wave a little a pump back down, its the same backside but you move your foot the other way. practice is the best solution though

[wbsurfer]

yea just think about how you pump frontside. lift up the nose and bring it up the wave a little a pump back down, its the same backside but you move your foot the other way. practice is the best solution though

so do i either use my foot or hand to guid me backside?