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ecoastprock
08-07-2009, 01:16 AM
Well its official....

http://nnvl.noaa.gov/MediaDetail.php?MediaID=235&MediaTypeID=2

NOAA Lowers Hurricane Season Outlook, Cautions Public Not to Let Down Guard
August 6, 2009

Animation of El Niño in Pacific.

El Niño animation (Credit: NOAA)

According to its August Atlantic hurricane season outlook, NOAA now expects a near- to below-normal Atlantic hurricane season, as the calming effects of El Niño continue to develop. But scientists say the season’s quiet start does not guarantee quiet times ahead. The season, which began June 1, is entering its historical peak period of August through October, when most storms form.

“While this hurricane season has gotten off to quiet start, it’s critical that the American people are prepared in case a hurricane strikes,” said Commerce Secretary Gary Locke.

NOAA’s Climate Prediction Center, a division of the National Weather Service, now predicts a 50 percent probability of a near-normal season, a 40 percent probability of a below-normal season, and a 10 percent probability of an above-normal season. Forecasters say there is a 70 percent chance of seven to 11 named storms, of which three to six could become hurricanes, including one to two major hurricanes (category 3, 4 or 5).

The main change from the May outlook is an increased probability of a below-normal season, and an expectation of fewer named storms and hurricanes. The May outlook called for nine to 14 named storms, of which four to seven could become hurricanes, including one to three major hurricanes. During an average season, there are 11 named storms with winds of at least 39 mph, of which six become hurricanes with winds of 74 mph or greater and two of those become major hurricanes with winds of 111 mph or higher.

In recent weeks, forecasts for the return of El Niño – warmer than normal waters along the equatorial central and eastern Pacific Ocean – have come to fruition.

“El Niño continues to develop and is already affecting upper-level atmospheric pressure and winds across the global tropics,” said Gerry Bell, Ph.D., lead seasonal hurricane forecaster at NOAA’s Climate Prediction Center. “El Niño produces stronger upper-level westerly winds over the Caribbean Sea and tropical Atlantic Ocean, which help to reduce hurricane activity by blowing away the tops of growing thunderstorm clouds that would normally lead to tropical storms.”

“El Niño may mean fewer storms compared to recent seasons, but it doesn’t mean you can let your guard down,” said Jack Hayes, Ph.D., director of NOAA’s National Weather Service. “History shows that hurricanes can strike during an El Niño.” Some examples include Betsy in 1965, Camille in 1969, Bob in 1991, Danny in 1997 and Lili in 2002.

Even though El Niño tends to decrease the number of storms, other climate factors may help to create some storms. As predicted in May, conditions associated with the high-activity era that began in 1995 are in place, and include enhanced rainfall over west Africa and warmer tropical Atlantic Ocean water, which favor storm development.

The calm start to this hurricane season is not a reliable indicator of the overall activity for the entire season. The 1992 Atlantic hurricane season, for example, had a below-normal number of named storms and hurricanes. The first storm did not form until late August, when Hurricane Andrew hit southern Florida as a destructive Category 5 storm.

Hurricane Andrew slams into South Florida in August 1992 during a hurricane season that began late.

High resolution (Credit: NOAA)

“These outlooks are extremely valuable when determining cycles and trends for the season, however they don’t tell us when the next storm will occur or where it may strike,” said FEMA administrator Craig Fugate. “It only takes one storm to put a community at risk. That is why we need to take action and prepare ourselves and our families before the next storm hits, including developing a family disaster plan. By taking a few simple steps now we can help ensure that we are better prepared and that our first responders are able to focus on our most vulnerable citizens.”

Predicting where and when a storm may hit land depends on the weather conditions in place at the time the storm approaches. Therefore NOAA’s seasonal outlook, which spans multiple months, does not include landfall projections. But once a storm appears to be forming, NOAA’s National Hurricane Center will issue track and intensity forecasts.

NOAA understands and predicts changes in the Earth’s environment, from the depths of the ocean to the surface of the sun, and conserves and manages our coastal and marine resources.

hanna
08-07-2009, 01:52 AM
“These outlooks are extremely valuable when determining cycles and trends for the season, however they don’t tell us when the next swell will occur or where it may strike,” said FEMA administrator Craig Fugate. “It only takes one storm to pump a swell into the surf community. That is why we need to take action and prepare ourselves and our boards before the next storm hits, including developing a work escape plan. By taking a few simple steps now we can help ensure that we are better prepared and that our first response to a storm is to drop everything and go surfing.” be prepared :D

conway
08-07-2009, 02:24 AM
the nine? what's that?

adowcett
08-07-2009, 07:19 PM
the nine? what's that?

If my elementary school education serves me correctly I believe, and correct me if I'm wrong here, that it's a number? There's a few others besides that one, but not too many.

conway
08-07-2009, 07:26 PM
If my elementary school education serves me correctly I believe, and correct me if I'm wrong here, that it's a number? There's a few others besides that one, but not too many.

http://www.coloring-kids.com/images/vignettes/nombres-rue-sesame-chiffre9.gif


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stoneybaloney
08-07-2009, 08:27 PM
the nine? what's that?

It means "the boy", not "the nine" en espanol.

¡Lo siento!

conway
08-07-2009, 11:41 PM
It means "the boy"!

no, that's el boyo.

bfloyd
08-08-2009, 02:58 AM
be prepared :D

In California, don't expect squat here. The west coast has insane surf during an El Nino term.

gnargnarshredda
08-08-2009, 12:57 PM
After El Nino come La Nina.


Yeh Cali has had 3 storms off their coast (that I know of) as well as consistent surf when there weren't any storms. It's sickening. Spoiled brats:mad:

hanna
08-10-2009, 02:00 AM
gotta like this (http://www.wunderground.com/blog/JeffMasters/show.html):

A strong tropical wave with a high amount of spin moved off the coast of Africa yesterday, and has a good chance of becoming the first named storm of the 2009 Atlantic hurricane season. The wave was designated 99L by NHC Sunday morning. Wind shear is moderate, about 10 knots, and sea surface temperatures are moderately warm, about 27 - 28°C. There is a large area of dry air to 99L's north, but this is not currently interfering with the storm's organization. This morning's QuikSCAT pass showed a nearly closed surface circulation, stretched out along two axes. The storm can now be classified as tropical depression using the satellite-based Dvorak classification technique, but the surface circulation will have to show better definition before 99L can be classified as a tropical depression.

nsurfecoast
08-10-2009, 02:10 PM
El Nino may be quite a limiting factor when it comes to hurricane season, however, I believe El Nino winters on the east coast are typically warm, rainy, and abundant with swell. I remember the El Nino of 97/98 and it was one of the best winters I have seen on the east coast (of course twelve year old memories are probably unreliable especially considering i was like ten then). However, at that time period I was living in New England so El Nino may have different consequences down here during the winter. Either way though it couldn't get any worse than last winter. All in all im pretty sure El Nino usually means a wave rich winter for both coasts. I may be wrong, anyone know?

kook95
08-10-2009, 05:03 PM
That's right, I remember summer/fall 97' did suck. The only hurricane swell we got that year was from Erica, but from late fall to late spring 97/98 was full of swell. If I understand correctly, during El Nino winters the jet stream stays further south, meaning alot of low pressure systems can form in the south-east and ride up the coast.

zach619
08-10-2009, 06:42 PM
That's right, I remember summer/fall 97' did suck. The only hurricane swell we got that year was from Erica, but from late fall to late spring 97/98 was full of swell. If I understand correctly, during El Nino winters the jet stream stays further south, meaning alot of low pressure systems can form in the south-east and ride up the coast.


That is correct. And the NorthWest US stays dry for once. Socal actually gets wet because the jetsream drops over here. W go from 10 inches of annual rain fall to about 30 inches in a Nino Winter... Lets hope it is like 98.... Every Pier from IB to B.C. got beat down by swell after swell after wonderful swell. They had to rebuild the OB pier that summer. That sucker got trashed...

mofosurfer.com
08-10-2009, 10:58 PM
It's sickening. Spoiled brats:mad:

You have no clue to how pisspoor our winter was last year. Worst winter ever. I wouldn't be that envious of us.

adowcett
08-19-2009, 04:48 PM
http://www.blackroses.com/~skip/tower/mphtower.com/videos/funny_essay.gif

nsurfecoast
08-19-2009, 08:49 PM
I work as a TA at UNCW and have to grade freshman papers all the time. I thought I had read some crazy crap before but that blows me away. Is that kid in a mental hospital or something? My favorite part is "like everything Spanish it is dangerous" or whatever he said. However, I think I truly understand El Nino now. Thanks for enlightening me.

adowcett
08-19-2009, 10:20 PM
I work as a TA at UNCW and have to grade freshman papers all the time. I thought I had read some crazy crap before but that blows me away. Is that kid in a mental hospital or something? My favorite part is "like everything Spanish it is dangerous" or whatever he said. However, I think I truly understand El Nino now. Thanks for enlightening me.

There's no way any of the papers like that out there are serious..... well....maybe just one

http://tinyurl.com/2hmwtz

wbluke
08-19-2009, 10:52 PM
There's no way any of the papers like that out there are serious..... well....maybe just one

http://tinyurl.com/2hmwtz


hahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah i was laughing my ass off ahahha you have to read this