Trop storm Bill

[riGhT c0asT sUrf]

ts bill looks pretty promising for our region late next week...what you thinkin the chances wel get some ill nuggie waves outa this system swellinfo

[surfsolo]

Forecasts are shady at best b/c of path predictions 5 days in advance are shaky...I'd check back in three or four days. Golfing I hear is a good sport;)

[locosurf]

golfing isn't a good sport it is a great sport... my mantra is surf & turf... what is ill nuggie??? 8ft+ or mung infested closouts... seriously did you really just type that... one wave at a time my man, one wave at a time

[Swellinfo]

Bill's projected Storm Path (http://www.swellinfo.com/tropical/index.html?forecast=tropsystems&region=NT&hwvregstormid=3&year=2009&alt=tropsystempage) looks pretty great right now.

[kman]

i woodn't call that a 'weak' path'. yea, it IZ veerin' outta sea, but at that strength and position, no doubt we'll c atleest 2dayz uv solid surf, and s**t, that's more than 1 cood ask 4 around this s**thole...

[BenjiFACE]

its not shady its going to hopefully produce some sorta surf able swell better then what we have been getting I'll tell you that much.

[kman]

that l8est projection'z puttin' Bill pretteey F&*ckin' closeta wrong island!?

[riGhT c0asT sUrf]

triple OH sundayy?!!? .. could any places on LI hold a solid 12 ft long per swell like that

[fulltilt720]

I've never even seen the maps hold that much swell, let alone a beach.

[BigVic]

triple OH sundayy?!!? .. could any places on LI hold a solid 12 ft long per swell like that

Yes, then can. I've seen much larger swell hit Long Island beaches in the past.

- Vic

[fulltilt720]

Ideally, if everything works out for perfect conditions (wind, tide, storm, and sandbars all cooperate)...whats the board size of choice for paddling out in "Triple overhead+ high SE long period swell?"

[dbiz135]

This weekend Long island is going to blow up for sure!!! The spots out east will be able to handle it no problem!!!! It's going to light up like a xmas tree!!!!

[locosurf]

7'6 Gun or bigger

[dbiz135]

What's f**ked up is that were going from a 3 week flat spell to triple overhead surf. No time to get ready for the mayhem. I don't think that I have ever seen triple overhead surf in long island. Long beach is going to be closeout city at low tide. Maybe the wave will open up a bit a hightide but it will be epic out there! Be safe. Don't be a cowboy!!!!!

[doydel]

does any1 know if anywere on long island will be holding up other than the the point

[BigVic]

Based on the current conditions, the forecast throughout NY/NJ and DELMAR looks incredibly promising. I am at my house in VA Beach, and I am heading north to NY on Friday to enjoy the south facing beaches of Rockaway Beach. The largest surf for Long Island (based on recent datum extracted from this site as well as others) will be located east of Bay Shore. More westerly beaches such as Lido, Jones, Long Beach, and Rockaway Beach will certainly receive good swell, but less pronounced as the easterly ones. Peak is predicted around 8-AM, dying quickly throughout the day and into the evening hours. Note the below tidal datum for Rockaway and Long Beach, NY;

2009-08-23 04:22 EDT -0.50 feet Low Tide
2009-08-23 06:13 EDT Sunrise
2009-08-23 10:03 EDT Moonrise
2009-08-23 10:38 EDT 5.20 feet High Tide
2009-08-23 16:46 EDT -0.14 feet Low Tide
2009-08-23 19:40 EDT Sunset
2009-08-23 21:05 EDT Moonset
2009-08-23 22:53 EDT 4.78 feet High Tide

With this scale, i'm predicting the surf to be epic around 0630-1030 that morning. With the gentle wind out of the NNW this should turn out to be an incredible day. I plan on taking full advantage of the westerly beaches which mostly face SSE.

Even if the surf is too big for you in the morning, head to the beach regardless and take advantage of the dying swell. At some point, especially with the 10-14 second estimated period you WILL be able to get out. Patience is key, especially for those not ready for 12+ foot surf.

Surfers: recommend something quick and agile out there. A 5' 2" fish is not going to do it. I would explore getting a 6'9" board or longer prefered for a quick moving beach break. Longboarders out there will be challenged with maneuverability.

Bodyboarders: Break out your bat tails and get ready for some serious waves. Ensure you break out the board, that floats you the best. No stalling on these waves, go for it! I'm breaking out my No. 6 44" Golliath, Elemenopee "Big One" and Custom X 45" with plenty of rocker. It's on!

- Vic

[doydel]

thanks vic,

Do you know if the beaches around gilgo will be working or if its gona be a big, closing out mess? Also im only 5'6", and my biggest board is 5"8", what problems am i gona see riding such a small board on a day like this?

[surfsolo]

It'll be closed out for almost everywhere except some hidden breaks like the far rockaways MAYBE...you may be able to score it on Monday though. If you go sat/sun be sure to break out your smallest board ;) right KmAn

[beaner]

vic, nice analysis. A bat tail though, is not the best option for a bodyboard in big surf. Generally, bat tails are used in smaller surf as they are 'looser' than the crescent tail. The crescent holds the wave much tighter than a bat tail in big, hollow conditions.

[RI-CUSTOM-X]

Hey all I"m new to the site and forum.

If all goes as predicted this is going to be a decade swell for sure. Epic. (knocks on wood)
There are going to be some BIG spots in RI. Can't wait. I have a new Custom X board (the new MLX) coming in, hopefully on Saturday or sooner, and went down to the shop during lunch to give them the money. The girl working there was saying people are calling from Cali who are flying out here for it.

Be safe everyone and rip.

[BigVic]

vic, nice analysis. A bat tail though, is not the best option for a bodyboard in big surf. Generally, bat tails are used in smaller surf as they are 'looser' than the crescent tail. The crescent holds the wave much tighter than a bat tail in big, hollow conditions.

Honestly, it really depends on the conditions, the rider, the way the wave is breaking, etc. Is the wave a spilling or plunging wave? Is the wave closing out quickly or do you have some time to maneuver? All of these variables depend on the break and what that particular beach break is doing. I have used bat tails in overhead surf, as well as smaller shorebreak with good results.

The best bet is to simply bring a variety of boards so you can be best prepared for whatever the local break is going to throw at you. I will be bringing (1) bat and (2) cresent tailed boards for this surf..

- Vic

[BigVic]

thanks vic,

Do you know if the beaches around gilgo will be working or if its gona be a big, closing out mess? Also im only 5'6", and my biggest board is 5"8", what problems am i gona see riding such a small board on a day like this?

Too early to predict at this point. I am taking a risk heading up to NY, especially when I have OBX in my backyard. I would continue to monitor swellinfo.com and wait for the hurricane to get closer. As the storm approaches, inevitably things will change as will forecasted predictions. Regarding the board, your biggest obstacle is going to be maintaining stability. Depending on how the swell hits, you might be able to get away with a 5' 8" board.


It'll be closed out for almost everywhere except some hidden breaks like the far rockaways MAYBE...you may be able to score it on Monday though. If you go sat/sun be sure to break out your smallest board ;) right KmAn

Too early to predict at this point with pinpoint accuracy. Will will see, and with some luck we will have the epic waves we so crave.

- Vic

[RI-CUSTOM-X]

Honestly, it really depends on the conditions, the rider, the way the wave is breaking, etc. Is the wave a spilling or plunging wave? Is the wave closing out quickly or do you have some time to maneuver? All of these variables depend on the break and what that particular beach break is doing. I have used bat tails in overhead surf, as well as smaller shorebreak with good results.

The best bet is to simply bring a variety of boards so you can be best prepared for whatever the local break is going to throw at you. I will be bringing (1) bat and (2) cresent tailed boards for this surf..

- Vic

Agreed. I've been riding a bat tail only for for 3+ years now (i need a new board...good thing it's on the way! :) and been in some big swell year round up here and I love it. I ride 50/50 and I've gotten used to the bat for DK.