Sadness

Gas costs a ****load nowadays not everyone can just drive to check the waves whenever they want..

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Originally Posted by Zippy

Surfing is becoming something people do like occasionally playing golf or going bowling. They wake up and say "knee to waist high, great! Today I am a surfer". Little to no dedication, no sacrifice and no appreciation for it. It's there to take and it's as much mine as anyone, so here I come with my bic in a boardbag and my signature safari hat.

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I have feelings, ya know.

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Originally Posted by Zippy

Surfing is becoming something people do like occasionally playing golf or going bowling.

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just to play devils advocate, i bowl a lot and have been in leagues. i know im better than 99% of people out there when its open bowling to the public. it doesnt really every bother me that they are coming in and doing the same sport im doing, whatever their true motivation. yes, it is harder bowling with large crowds around distracting you, but u just gotta take the good with the bad. (larger crowds directly affect surfers more, i know)

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Originally Posted by schweez

just to play devils advocate, i bowl a lot and have been in leagues. i know im better than 99% of people out there when its open bowling to the public. it doesnt really every bother me that they are coming in and doing the same sport im doing, whatever their true motivation. yes, it is harder bowling with large crowds around distracting you, but u just gotta take the good with the bad. (larger crowds directly affect surfers more, i know)

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that was kinda a terrible analogue. - you'd know if you surfed quite often

Yeah I was planning on heading down this weekend and a few days ago it looked good and now it's knee to thigh high. Even though the forecast is small, I have been checking the web cams every day (when the forecast is calling for small surf) and it has actually been bigger and cleaner than forecasted.

i had fun on a longboard tonight;there was little waves

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Originally Posted by schweez

just to play devils advocate, i bowl a lot and have been in leagues. i know im better than 99% of people out there when its open bowling to the public. it doesnt really every bother me that they are coming in and doing the same sport im doing, whatever their true motivation. yes, it is harder bowling with large crowds around distracting you, but u just gotta take the good with the bad. (larger crowds directly affect surfers more, i know)

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that is, bar none, the worst analogy you could have come up w/ for this situation. bowling & surfing are nothing at all alike. you should prob. sell your board now, b/c you clearly don't get it.

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Originally Posted by Zippy

I agree it was so much fun to make a guess, find you were right and score with only a few around. Surfing is becoming something people do like occasionally playing golf or going bowling. They wake up and say "knee to waist high, great! Today I am a surfer". Little to no dedication, no sacrifice and no appreciation for it. It's there to take and it's as much mine as anyone, so here I come with my bic in a boardbag and my signature safari hat. The internet is a great thing but **** make people work for it, even a little.

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Love this post!!

[QUOTE=Zippy;101084]I agree it was so much fun to make a guess, find you were right and score with only a few around. Surfing is becoming something people do like occasionally playing golf or going bowling. They wake up and say "knee to waist high, great! Today I am a surfer". Little to no dedication, no sacrifice and no appreciation for it. It's there to take and it's as much mine as anyone, so here I come with my bic in a boardbag and my signature safari hat. The internet is a great thing but **** make people work for it, even a little.[/QUOTE


Summer is for the hobbyists. They are the reason the surf industry has enough scale to make gear affordable for die hard surfers. The summer hobbyists are just as much a part of the surfing eco-system as you or I, in that they donate the all mighty dollar. Let them have their summer slop. Size and knowledge are natural kook filters. Come Labor Day, it's time to regulate. Don't let kooks get you down! Stay Above the Weather!!!

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Originally Posted by stayabovetheweather

Summer is for the hobbyists. They are the reason the surf industry has enough scale to make gear affordable for die hard surfers. The summer hobbyists are just as much a part of the surfing eco-system as you or I, in that they donate the all mighty dollar. Let them have their summer slop. Size and knowledge are natural kook filters. Come Labor Day, it's time to regulate. Don't let kooks get you down! Stay Above the Weather!!!

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I disagree with the argument that we all need the summer hobbists to stoke the markets and keep us in good cheap gear. The only surfing gear that costs real $ is boards and winter rubber. Die hard surfers either already shape their own boards or will find a way to get inexpensive boards (used, locally shaped customs, bro deals etc) if cost is that much of an issue. 30 years ago there were a tiny fraction of the summer hobbyists around and the cost of a board in real dollar terms was about the same as it is now, so i dont see much effect. Summer hobbyists by definition dont need serious rubber so thats not relevant either. I also dont see the "surfing ecosystem" revolving around the all mighty dollar, you'd have to explain that one to me...