"for me, getting angry over a crap wave is not worth it and should be beneath a 'good' surfer. but on the other hand, beginners should recognize when they are wasting waves on good days and getting in the way of better surfers who have been waiting perhaps months for swell."
Basically saying, you should never take surfing or any other sport so seriously, unless the put you in danger, let it go. That's it...Getting aggro is never acceptable, unless you are being put directly in danger, period.
And I understand where you're coming from Pumpmaster, but how many threads are you guys gonna post like this. As you can see I've never really posted often, until yesterday, because I just like to check my forecast and read something if it's interesting. But, this is enough, I'm tired of you guys acting like every time it's good out there's 50 kooks just snaking every wave in sight. It's just not true.
Then, you fellas want to turn it into cold-water Jersey thing or a liberal vs. republican thing, which it's not. This is just one guy trying to get a bunch of close minded people to realize life is too short to blow a fuse over surfing. Unless something happens that sends you home in worse physical condition then when you paddled out, let it go. There's plenty of other places (bars, concerts, sporting events) to get all drunk aggro and pick on smaller guys then you, save it for there please.
Once again, Go Heat!
One more point. The original post mentions lawsuits and people suing each other. Has there been some recent case of a surfer suing another surfer or something that I missed? Just curious. Anybody got a link?
Nope, basically just a bunch of grumpy old guys complaining about something one guy said one time in a forum. Don't worry I've been out surfing a few times the past week and haven't been threatened with a lawsuit yet. But then again I'm considerate and wear a leash.
like it or not surfing is self regulated and it is not changing. it isn't just hassling someone for snaking or dropping in. Ever see someone step in when someone is getting overly hassled by a more expericened surfer? it happens. you ever see a local tell a younger surfer to pick up his trash? have you ever seen a more expercienced surfer give a wave to a leeser experciened one? It happens. You come from places like the pacific northwest and California. I've been there and self regulation happens there too. Maybe even more so. and you will see it in Jupiter and other plaves in FLA believe me.
FYI after my last post yesterday i shut the computer, the whole family worked in the garden( i'm planting CORN!), ate dinner, went to the beach and got some waist high little waves that the whole family could ride, and then got italian ices before bedtime. tonight i'm going fishing. tomorow i'm playing softball. How's that for well rounded? and I am almost 40.
I shouldn't had been rude. you are not nobody. I'll just call you Kyle. you can call me PJ. How's that?
I understand self-regulation. Just don't think you're the cops, judge, and jury.
But please tell me PeaJay, what is a surfer then? I go out, and without a chip on my should surf as much as the next guy, respect the ocean and others around me. What else is missing so I can fit into your "surfer" label?
I work for a charitable organization but I don't walk around calling myself a philanthropist, what makes you a "surfer" and me not one? Just sounds like you love to have that label attached to you, I could care less.
I might print this entire thread out and use it as toilet paper....
you guys crack me up with your expertise of "what is hardcore" and "who should or shouldn't be in the water". What a joke.
The words that come to mind are "delusions of grandeur".
Every one of you guys was a "newbie" or "kook" at one time, and every one of you "got in someone else's way".
Tough talk on the internet is lame and sad.
i'm a proficient surfer who doesn't fall very much and even i will take it down the beach if i know it's too big or fast for me to make many waves when others are. even good surfers need to know their limits and abilities and stop clogging up the lineup when they're in over their head. beginners even more so.