Matt, I am not trying to discourage your efforts by no means. I just don't think SS would be in your best interest as far as contest's go. There are too many detractors against you there, swell, tide winds and Most notably the LOCALS.
It actually might not be a big deal if it was held close to the jetty, but from the wood ramp/walkover towards DUMPS would be a NO/NO! Permit or not, those associated with the contest would experience serious friction from the locals, not only during the contest, but each time they showed up for a session from then on.
I participated in the ESA for a looonnnggg time, but do feel the BBING division was always discriminated against, in fact I know it was, & the reason I don't care to participate any longer. I know Art well & also know he has a better interest for ALL the competitors involved than in previous years, however I don't think it would be in the best interest to have a dedicated BBING/surfing contest @ SS. All parties involved would generate a lot of friction from such an event, not only during the contest, but many sessions down the road.
BB contest sounds like a good idea. I know several people that would do it. Late Summer/Fall would be best to get a good swell, plus the water is still warm, so you will get more people. Early spring will not get many BBers because of the cold water..just my .02
Originally Posted by turtletheshaper
I am all for a BB contest, however trying to have one @ SS is a whole different story. Fall is a great time of year for waves as we all know, but having it @ a location other than SS would be in all interested parties best interest.
ino i agree with you fully chuck when i told art about it he said southside but i said the inlet. i remember when i went out there during noel the locals werent to cool to me i got droped in on several times
Not at SS.
IF it goes down , it WILL NOT go down at SS.
There would not be ANY support from the local crew that regulates that spot and it would not be good for K Coast business or the ESA if they are trying to "befriend" the BBn community. The 'crew' that rides SS on the norm is DEEP. And NOTHING good would come of forcing a contest there. Most of 'us' deal with K Coast b/c they are the rare surfshop that really seems to support BBn.
I'd say IF it happens OCI or 37th thru50th street OCMd would be the best bets.
Mark ,if you read this be sure NOT to recommend SS as a possible contest site please.
And I like Art , surfed with him many,many times...but I think IF he made that suggestion it was to get a reaction.
The end of times. . .
Then it's true, it must be the end of times when Body boarders become more localized and selfish than surfers. Whoda thunk it? Take a stand, do it at south side where surfers won't intrude.
I think the idea is great & you've gotten some good advice on here so far.
I don't think ss would work well for a contest. I don't ride up there, but from all the shots of it I've seen on here, I really think your asking for trouble w/ inexperienced riders challenging a wave they shouldn't be. It's a unique wave. I think thats why the locals cherish it... and so no matter who wants to stir the pot and have it there, turn your head to them and have it in ocmd where I think the playing field will be level for the riders. Mid town seems to hold all types of swell, so that's were I'd have my eyes set on if I were you.
Originally Posted by MDSurfer
You don't know me enough to try & judge me, so take the guilt game elsewhere.
Pretty conflicting statement about BBERS being more selfish than surfers & then add: have it where "SURFERS" won't intrude. Sounds like you are retaining a bit of the selfish mindset yourself.
Reading some of your posts in other topics, you have been around for many years also. However it doesn't seem like you are a BBER or ride SS so I don't see where it concerns you at all.
I spend a good amount of time during the summer giving FREE lessons, instruction, tips & also supply the boards for kids to enjoy & offset my "selfishness." With my 4 kids, ages 11 & under, along with their friends & my friends kids, it usually is about 30 kids who are able to enjoy the ocean & the memorable times during the summer. Same goes for BBERS during a swell, if they ask I will gladly offer some tips/advice.
I don't care if you are a BBER or Surfer, the fact of having a contest @ SS is not a good idea. I have been riding there & locally for over 25 years & SS is a unique wave, with a tight group of regular locals.
I have been consistently riding SS since the 80's & have about as much time/swells logged as anyone, BBING or Surfing, so I do have an opinion on the place. There is a very limited area or takeoff zone @ SS compared with most other areas, specifically OC where you can move 5+ blocks in either direction & it basically breaks the same.
I was letting Matt & others involved know what challenges may arise & other options to consider. Many of the local BBERS that have a few years experience there, still have a difficult time riding the waves @ SS. ESA riders, besides a select few, don't have the experience to handle even the smaller days there.
It's odvious that MDsurfer has know idea who he is talking to or what he is talking about. Just ignore his ignorance. MDsurfer just sits on the becah all day taking pictures of people that he wishes he could be like and then comes on here and talks all this ****. He just seems like another person who wants to start a fight all because the winter is flat. Just chill
Matt I really like the idea and remember you talking about during the summer. And everyone has been making good points on both sides of the argument. The only thing about SS is if you held it on a larger day (assuming it would be at dumps not by the jetti) I don't know how many people you would have sign up for the DK and the Menehune. Also just a thought if you were to have different judges then a regular ESA. Like judges who actually bodyboard instead of having surf judges (no offense to anyone). But what ever it may be I will be in it regardless.