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    Quote Originally Posted by goofy footer View Post
    You right my comprehension skills got in the way reading OP 1st post then how you allowed your ego to run a muck knocking skim boarding when OP was reaching out with a very honest post about his ability, experience and aspirations. You missed the boat comprehending a new member being scolded by a seasoned member "don't give a crap about skim boarding". It very obvious you have issues with certain areas of surfing but how are you making it better knocking new posters and stating dropping in on riders with off brand boards. I have respect for those here who provide just outstanding advise and opinions for those who seek it just as much for those on the beach who help the less experience in spite of the type of board and ability. Just give it some thought about the bigger picture and not the narrow picture you have painted .
    that's hysterical, b/c i'm a pretty open-minded person, esp. in terms of surfcraft. in fact, i'm fairly certain i have one of the more diverse quivers of any poster on here. admittedly, you will not find a skimboard included. as previously noted, it's not my thing. however, i believe that the fact the OP is a skimboarder is irrelevant to the type of board he needs to his stated ability level. hence, "i don't give a crap about skimboarding." if you choose to see that as my ego running "a muck," then that's how you choose to see it.

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    increasingly, Fish shapes are acquired and ridden around here for very questionable reasons.
    People not skilled enough to really ride a thruster, but somehow think they won't get any respect on a longboard or a bodyboard.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Feesh View Post
    Good point, how many of us have seen kooks on Al Merricks? How can you automatically assume people know how to ride based on their rig? Makes no sense...
    You can tell the talent of a surfer by how they ride not what they ride.
    That all you see in the summer like a stated earlier. Groms or Kooks and the beach with the lates off the rack 700 dollar merrick or CI Fire wire ( basicly what ever is deamed cool at the time by surf media) . Then you see him paddle out and he get skunked on every wave he paddles for. Why cause he tired to walk before he could crawl.

    Quote Originally Posted by dave View Post
    increasingly, Fish shapes are acquired and ridden around here for very questionable reasons.
    People not skilled enough to really ride a thruster, but somehow think they won't get any respect on a longboard or a bodyboard.
    I guess my reasons are questionalbe then . I prefer not the drink the Thurster Koolaide. Nothing agianst ppl who ride thrusters or that type of board but, it just not what I am into and it dont agree with my style of surfing

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    If you're worried about riding a particular shape because other surfers think it's "not cool" or "lame", then you probably won't last as a real surfer. If you ride a particular shape because it's mainstream, then you are limiting yourself as a real surfer. But if you're not riding a shape because it doesn't agree with your style, then you have a legitimate reason.

    I totally agree that nobody knows local conditions like your local shaper. Most will probably shape you the best board for your local conditions.

    But, there's also a reason that shapers like Pavel, Christenson and Mabile have made inroads on the East Coast with their Fish shapes, as opposed to the "Pop-outs" that seem to be so popular these days. You'd be short-changing yourself without taking a look at what a real Fish shaper has to offer.

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    Yeah, I think its about each individual. Years ago, when the retro fish thing came back to the west coast, a core group of locals from here broke out the old fish and never looked back. Everyday. Every condition. Different styles, but they love it. In a lot of ways, its a more simple way to surf. They get more waves than normal, they make big mushy closout sections, yet they still stall out in a shallow reef. You can really ride those things in any condition you see fit, and you can make it look good. I am trying out new boards these days. I even long board sometimes, and I really get stoked having fun days on different equipment now.

    The fish twin fin retro fish I tried, I hated. It was like 7 years ago, on a waist high day in mission beach. Low tide, onshore winds. The thing would just ride towards the beach. But that is because it was a truely aweful day of surf. I made poor judgments on fish in general because of that session. But years later, I got a really good swell at the right spot, and then it clicked...

    Its like SUP baords. They arent meant for small surf. They are meant for big sh**. Then it looks good, then its fun....

    And P.S. Not only is maui ruined, I counted 20+ SUPs on the cliffs 2 days ago.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zach619 View Post
    The fish twin fin retro fish I tried, I hated. It was like 7 years ago, on a waist high day in mission beach. Low tide, onshore winds. The thing would just ride towards the beach.
    Zach,

    I've ridden Mission low tide onshorey waist high and that has to be the weakest most crumbly wave ever. Its weird but I can totally believe the twinnie would suck in those conditions. Retro Twinnies need a bit of a steep wall to come alive IMO.

    I'm gonna be in La Jolla in March..lets surf!

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    Quote Originally Posted by njsurfer42 View Post
    i believe that the fact the OP is a skimboarder is irrelevant to the type of board he needs to his stated ability level.
    it was to show that i have experience riding a wave, just very little experience paddling into and popping up. pretty simple to realize that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mitchell View Post
    Zach,

    Retro Twinnies need a bit of a steep wall to come alive IMO.
    I agree, something you can engage the rail in and get that keel fin drivin'

    Speeeeeeeeeed

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    Quote Originally Posted by mitchell View Post
    Zach,

    I've ridden Mission low tide onshorey waist high and that has to be the weakest most crumbly wave ever. Its weird but I can totally believe the twinnie would suck in those conditions. Retro Twinnies need a bit of a steep wall to come alive IMO.

    I'm gonna be in La Jolla in March..lets surf!
    Lets do it! Lets hope for a solid swell and meet up on the cliffs or LJ reefs. March is usually good. Tons of left over NWers from the winter, with pretty solid windswell. Keep in touch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lolwut View Post
    it was to show that i have experience riding a wave, just very little experience paddling into and popping up. pretty simple to realize that.
    paddling into, popping up, & riding a wave on a board w/ fins is, IMO, only similar to riding a wave on a board w/out fins in the sense that each is riding a wave. saying that they're similar at all beyond that is like saying that bodyboarding & bodysurfing are alike.
    so it seems largely irrelevant to your needs as a surfer, but that's just my take on it. but what do i know? i'm just a dumb surfer...