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  1. #11
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    Quote Originally Posted by aka pumpmaster View Post
    Who cares.....If they didn't use that then people would be b!tching about the oil so it's a no win. What group is putting this out there to scare up your money this time?????
    I actually had to look pretty deep to find this one. No one has publicly hosted this theory... But after reading multiple CNN articles, I read a blog post at the bottom asking everyone to google this, and I did, and I was shocked...

    Do I care about 5000 birds? No... But as a surfer, this pisses me off. This means guys paddling out along the gulf coast are going to be swimming in unidentified chemical substances, which I am SURE have not been tested for long term effects on the human body... I could care less about the birds really, sh** happens...

    But man, the fact that BP has created this strange chemical mix, and THEY are administering, that scares me... And I don't surf the gulf coast ever, im sure you dont either, but as surfers, that is a long stretch of beach in our country...

    Its bad enough that the animals and surfers are swimming with oil, now they are swimming in lethal, scientifically formulated uber-chemicals....

    And, yeah people would ***** if they did nothing, but they keep all these chemical mixtures on the hush hush....

    If there was some oversight here, I wouldnt be so alarmed, but the fact that you have to do all this reseatch just to pull up these facts is scary...

    The media should be all over this stuff. It makes me wonder why people arent saying things. is BP that big? I mean, are guys in labs getting whacked looking into this stuff. probably not... but man, this doesnt seem like a very smart solution.


    And i didnt even mention the 200,000 fish that died in that are the SAME MONTH..


    Yes, this also happened in maryland, and yes maryland concluded that it was the cold bay waters that killed 2 MILLION fish....

    But down in ARK and LOUSIANNA, the DIDNT say it had anything to do with weather...

    So all the fish die in a body of water connected to the gulf, and then thousands of birds also die that had access to water in the same area...

    I dont think this is an alien theory... This is just common sense to me,,, I hope there is no link here, it could be random. Completely random... but i feel as though it is not.

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    Personally, i don't believe anything that anyone of "power" ie government, news, police, etc. has to say. They lie to everyone to protect their own backs, and will never give a full truthful story. I've seen them try to snake their way around everything, and point fingers at the wrong people because "the public would accept it easier than if they knew the truth".

    i know i sound like someone with conspiracy problems, but i sware i don't lol...maybe i'm turning into Jesse Ventura

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    they were east coast surfer birds. They offed themselves because of our month long flat/ abnormally cold spell. I do think it was very considerate that they went and did the deed elsewhere.

    I mean, its the only possible explanation...
    Last edited by leethestud; Jan 14, 2011 at 05:32 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zach619 View Post
    Yes, this also happened in maryland, and yes maryland concluded that it was the cold bay waters that killed 2 MILLION fish....

    I dont think this is an alien theory... This is just common sense to me,,, I hope there is no link here, it could be random. Completely random... but i feel as though it is not.
    We're still scratching our heads cold water killed 2 million fish in the Chesapeake Bay

    Your concerns are valid and can be this simple, bird gets affected by cross cantamination, bird craps in your back yard then Fido walks on the bird crap comes in side licks his paws and when you come home licks your face

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    Check out this...
    http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UT...42a91932911f5d

    and then look at this....
    http://www.examiner.com/pop-culture-...ad-bird-theory

    a lady called in to say that a flock of black birds hit her car as she was sitting at a stop light on Jan 5th. she was too creeped out to see if there were any casualties and left the scene. The CDC blew it off and referred her to us.....who knows how many smaller cases like this go un-spoken

    Conpiracy theorists have fun.....we'll see what transpires.....or not

    yeah pumpmaster...who cares....genius

    H5N1 research has been disbanded except for Delaware...and that ends march 31, 2011. So we have no idea if its within our flyways. But if birds die and they died from H5N1, we can test for it. This isnt the case.

    I think its the lack of surf

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    Quote Originally Posted by Double Over-toe View Post
    "the public would accept it easier than if they knew the truth".
    Kinda what gave it away in Europe were the workers in Bio suits picking up dead birds to be burned. Prime example of a picture that could speak a thousand words "Holy Crap"

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    Quote Originally Posted by oceanisnotasbigaswethink View Post
    H5N1 research has been disbanded except for Delaware...and that ends march 31, 2011. So we have no idea if its within our flyways. But if birds die and they died from H5N1, we can test for it. This isnt the case.
    H5N1 is monitored in all Flyways not just Delaware. Swabbing usually ends when Migratory stocks have left which is earlier than March 31. As you know "swabbing" is specie specfic so obtain sufficient sample match from nesting and migration routes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by goofy footer View Post
    H5N1 is monitored in all Flyways not just Delaware. Swabbing usually ends when Migratory stocks have left which is earlier than March 31. As you know "swabbing" is specie specfic so obtain sufficient sample match from nesting and migration routes.
    In the first 3 years we tested everything we caught. Then narrowed it down to a few spp of concern for specific reasons. Now its over. No $$

    fyi- 37 States recieved funding this year from USDA and that will end for good on 31 March, 2011. The Feds didnt do anything in terms of AI sampling this year. The only avian influenza testing being conducted after March 31 is on mortality events. Although U of Georgia will probably do some small scale stuff. The large scale reconnisance is fully disbanded after its 5 year project. So in the future we will not know if it occurs unless there is a mortality event and someone finds it and test for high pathogenic avian influenza.

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    I read an article last week about the mass bird and fish deaths, in the article they claim that mass die-offs happen naturally and often and cite the fact that everyone has camera's on their phones now to as why it's being made a big deal...just what i read, not my opinion, I'm sure the oil spill doesn't help, but autopsy seems to me as the best way to make a final decision.

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    The end of the world. duh