a. what does wearing tight jeans have anything to do with anything being talked about.
b. riding a 50lb. at 10 feet is more difficult then some of manuevers being pulled today, seriously try riding one, that is if you can pick it up.
c. I'll take andy's back side cutties under the lip and into a left barrel before any air.
d. when you talk about modern collective, great movie, a lot of those airs were fly aways.
E. sorry zach619, the way you post and ask questions, I find it hard to believe that you are out there slamming airs all the time. sorry, just do not see it, progression is one thing, but launching and landing are not everyday 'tricks' for your average surfers.
Ohh, and dont feel bad, from your posts, I dont think you can land an air, so thats why you said that. Dont be mad at me about it. Lets surf together someday and then we can judge each other. How about that?
I can just tell from your posts that you are an old school thinker. Half of us think like that, and half of us dont. We can agree to disagree. I agree that airs may not be the end all of surfing, but 10 years ago, that was the only thing I cared about learned. I was all about trying to be flashy rather than in sync with the wave. The whole way I developed that style is exactly what you probably despise. All show, no go... but over the years, I have learned the importance of knowing how to do all those things. Cause when you surf, its all about reaction. There is a time to hack, and time to duck and cover and a time to boost. And if you arent willing to explore all three of those options, you are shorting yourself.... Im just saying that if you have been surfing everyday for a decade and you cant pop an air on a shortboard, something is wrong. At that point, it is easy. Maybe we just disagree on "the average surfer"
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No way! I love to see guys going for it. Makes me go for it that much more. Especially when there half my age and rip twice as hard.... it shames me into going deeper, faster, and bigger.Zack, all these points are valid, but you left out one thing. It is such a session downer watching people trying to land tricks. Its like showing up to the skate park on a beautiful day to find a local ripper trying to land a bluntslide to fakey in the spleen bowl all day. It just a downer for everybody involved with the session. I have no problem with airs and pushing the envelope of what is possible in surfing (or skateboarding), just don't do it during a hot session. If you rip and land your tricks, you are the man. If you cant land it, stick to what is in your bag of tricks during a big session
All this talk about the average surfer... what is an average surfer? If the average surfer is the majority of surfers... then we are in trouble cuz the majority of surfers don't really surf all that well. If we mean the average surfer as an intermediate ability level... I think the majority of average level surfers aren't landing the airs consistently. The local standouts? Yup. Of course I am basing this off myself and my surroundings as I consider myself an intermediate surfer. Travel to foreign countries and score waves in any lineup...Check. Standard mixed bag of tricks an auto pilot...Check. Can go fins out, tweak tail slides, and launch weak airs mostly on accident... Check. Look cool with smooth style busting big tricks consistently and not falling...NOPE. Doomed to be intermediate...unless like Slater I continue to get better in my 30s.
b. Riding 50lb 10 foot longboard may be very difficult. So is playing football with a leather helment. So is communicating with f*cking smoke signals or traversing the countryside in a horse and f*cking buggy. Does this mean we should just turn our backs on progression and innovation and dub it all lame?
c. Andy could do both. You can probably do neither.
d. who cares? It's a movie...
e. Go ahead and enjoy being average. But just be aware that average is pretty f*cking lousy. Some people want more and have no problem rubbing hipster p*ssy d*ouches the wrong way to get there.
not to take sides or be drug into the "hipster" category but I really don't like the progression to aerials in competition. now before anyone jumps down my throat:
1. NO i CAN'T perform an aerial (of course I've never tried. I have to assume it's just like hitting a mini ramp with a skateboard? feel free to inform me anyone maybe i'll attempt it).
2. I'm not hating on people who DO like aerials or think it's a great part of the sport. just agreeing to disagree in a friendly way. I happen to think surfing is all about personal style, and mine is more laid back, whereas I see aerials as the "i'm going to get extreme and charge anything" attitude. This isn't bad, just not for me.
3. The reason I'm not a big fan of aerials in competition is because, as stated in someone else's post, EVERYONE who is a pro surfer hits aerials. When you look at many shots in surfer they are sick aerials, and it just becomes repetitive.
4. Finally to combine a few of my points, and to respond to the original poster: I enjoy looking at the gnarliest wave on the planet constantly (enter pipe), but I love seeing waves or breaks that someone like myself could actually have the chance of surfing, but seeing a really awesome guy tear it up and show me the potential for what can be done even without double-OH and glassy.
just my two cents.
seriously though, progression is a good thing. Hipster elitists are delusional. Accept it and move on.... progress. I bet there isnt a single person on this forum that can bash the progression in wetsuit technology.
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