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  1. #261
    Quote Originally Posted by andrewk529 View Post
    My point was that driving under the influence of prescription narcotics is legal, even if you kill someone or yourself. The hypocrisy of our nations drug laws dictated by the pharmaceutical lobby.

    http://www.erowid.org/plants/cannabi...s_driving6.pdf

    I personally do not condone driving under the influence of drugs, but cannabis causes minor impairment compared to out substances.
    Oh really? I know of cases where people were charged and convicted for negligent homicide when tested positive of controlled substances (legal) when they killed someone with a car.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aka pumpmaster View Post
    Oh really? I know of cases where people were charged and convicted for negligent homicide when tested positive of controlled substances (legal) when they killed someone with a car.
    Where the pharmaceuticals legally prescribed?

  3. #263
    Quote Originally Posted by aka pumpmaster View Post
    Oh really? I know of cases where people were charged and convicted for negligent homicide when tested positive of controlled substances (legal) when they killed someone with a car.
    THC stays in the system for up to 90 days. This makes it very difficult (impossible) to prove it was smoked within a certain period of only a few hours or even days. You really have to get poped for possession to have any legal issues regarding marijuana.

    As far as vehicular deaths by negligence go... i wont make up statistics, but i promise you that text messaging has killed more people than marijuana.

  4. #264
    Quote Originally Posted by leethestud View Post
    THC stays in the system for up to 90 days. This makes it very difficult (impossible) to prove it was smoked within a certain period of only a few hours or even days. You really have to get poped for possession to have any legal issues regarding marijuana.

    As far as vehicular deaths by negligence go... i wont make up statistics, but i promise you that text messaging has killed more people than marijuana.

    This kind of stuff is exactly what keeps me from supporting legalization. Smokers want it legal but don't want any responsibility attached to it.

    Kill someone while stoned..no big deal
    Won't get a job due to drug testing..live off public assistance

    and in answer the the prescription drugs..yes they were described. I asked an attorney friend of mine about this and he said that it doesn't matter, if it can be proven that the drugs were a factor in the fatality, the user is criminally negligent

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    Quote Originally Posted by aka pumpmaster View Post
    This kind of stuff is exactly what keeps me from supporting legalization. Smokers want it legal but don't want any responsibility attached to it.

    Kill someone while stoned..no big deal
    Won't get a job due to drug testing..live off public assistance

    and in answer the the prescription drugs..yes they were described. I asked an attorney friend of mine about this and he said that it doesn't matter, if it can be proven that the drugs were a factor in the fatality, the user is criminally negligent
    Could you cite the specific case? I do not agree with the protection afforded to individuals on perscibed drugs, but my experiences have shown that the liability is signifigantly decreased. Run someone over Drunk you commited murder, Hit somone on prescribed drugs your negligent.

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    http://www.nytimes.com/2010/07/25/us/25drugged.html?hpw

    Good luck convicting someone on "legal" perscribed drugs taken "as directed" ; my fathers office was basically destroyed by an older woman who was driving under the influence of multiple perscription narcotics. She was not criminally convicted of anything. If she would have been drunk the story would be completely different.
    Last edited by andrewk529; Oct 22, 2010 at 03:18 PM.

  7. #267
    Quote Originally Posted by aka pumpmaster View Post
    This kind of stuff is exactly what keeps me from supporting legalization. Smokers want it legal but don't want any responsibility attached to it.

    Kill someone while stoned..no big deal
    Won't get a job due to drug testing..live off public assistance

    and in answer the the prescription drugs..yes they were described. I asked an attorney friend of mine about this and he said that it doesn't matter, if it can be proven that the drugs were a factor in the fatality, the user is criminally negligent
    i work full time and pay a F*CK load of taxes, im definitely not the target of your message. You usually just have to be clean go GET a job. I dont care how much of a stoner you are or how straight edge you claim, no money no dinner in my book.

    Killing someone is always a big deal. The push for legalization basically rests on the liberalization of america, of which I agree with 0.0002% of. If they legalized it, not much would change for me, id probably just have to pay taxes on it too.

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    thanks for proving my point.

    Bottom line...Don't drive while impaired!! whether it is Xanax or weed or booze.

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    Bottom line...Don't drive while impaired!! whether it is Xanax or weed or booze.
    We are both in agreement.

  10. #270
    Quote Originally Posted by andrewk529 View Post
    We are both in agreement.
    im also with you. Holy sh!t, a thread ends in peace!