Usually common sense rises to the top. Usually.
This is sore subject for me since I was almost killed by a drunk drive years ago so any type of impaired driving makes me want to head for the gun safe.

Usually common sense rises to the top. Usually.
This is sore subject for me since I was almost killed by a drunk drive years ago so any type of impaired driving makes me want to head for the gun safe.
Finally some intelligent sounding posts. Although I have to disagree with the "driving while under the influence of presciption drugs is legal" post. Quite frankly this made me laugh more than anything as a scipt of Xanax or any other pain med or muscle relaxer, tells you on the bottle I believe not to operate heavy machinery(being a car in this case). That would make you in the wrong legally. As a patient you are responsible not to take these drugs and drive. Again this made me laugh more than anything.
yeah. I only use Xanax to fly!
See, you went and added another factor.. driving. So therefore, what I did mention was not dumb. Because it still holds that there are no recorded deaths SOLELY due to marijuana.
My bong is very clean and doesn't get dirty so therefore my lungs look like that. I don't smoke.
How does it kill your lungs? What exactly does that entail? One of the biggest uses of it is FOR sleeping. It helps people sleep. Oh yeah, another good benefit is that it gives someone an appetite so they can eat when they need to. Don't think I'm being a smart ass or d*ck in anyway. I really present these things to you because you just blurt out some things you heard and there's nothing to back it up.
Hahah yes! Peace and marijuana? Together? No way!
But yeah, as talked about before, I do not ADVOCATE anyone to be high and drive or on any substance for that matter.
The labels reduce the liability from the pharmaceutical companies. If you read the NYTimes article it indicates that the criminal cases are extremely hard to prosecute and rarely result in convictions. Not every state has implemented "drugged driving" laws. Have you ever seen charges brought against Budweiser for drunk driving?
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/07/25/us/25drugged.html?hpw
"She was charged with vehicular manslaughter and driving under the influence of drugs — an increasingly common offense, law enforcement officials say, at a time when drunken-driving deaths are dropping and when prescriptions for narcotic painkillers, anti-anxiety medications, sleep aids and other powerful drugs are rampant.
The issue is vexing police officials because, unlike with alcohol, there is no agreement on what level of drugs in the blood impairs driving.
The behavioral effects of prescription medication vary widely, depending not just on the drug but on the person taking it. Some, like anti-anxiety drugs, can dull alertness and slow reaction time; others, like stimulants, can encourage risk-taking and hurt the ability to judge distances. Mixing prescriptions, or taking them with alcohol or illicit drugs, can exacerbate impairment and sharply increase the risk of crashing, researchers say.
“In the past it was cocaine, it was PCP, it was marijuana,” said Chuck Hayes of the International Association of Chiefs of Police. “Now we’re into this prescription drug era that is giving us a whole new challenge.”
The police also struggle with the challenge of prosecuting someone who was taking valid prescriptions.
“How do we balance between people who legitimately need their prescriptions and protecting the public?” said Mark Neil, senior lawyer at the National Traffic Law Center, which works with prosecutors. “It becomes a very delicate balance.”
Some states have made it illegal to drive with any detectable level of prohibited drugs in the blood. But setting any kind of limit for prescription medications is far more complicated, partly because the complex chemistry of drugs makes their effects more difficult to predict than alcohol’s. And determining whether a driver took drugs soon before getting on the road can be tricky, since some linger in the body for days or weeks."
Last edited by andrewk529; Oct 22, 2010 at 08:46 PM.
RGNSUP we could go back and forth with conflicting stories all day long- some studies say marijuana has more carcinogens than tobacco & leads to an increased risk of cancers and others suggest it might inhibit types of cancer. and on and on and on.
but you can't believe that inhaling smoke into your longs and holding it doesn't have a negative effect on your lungs ability to absorb and utilize oxygen. I smoked it for 20 years and when I stopped my persistant nightly coughing stopped. The whole breathing thing is a big part of surfing at your personal best.
It may help some people sleep but other studies have shown that it can have a very negative effect on sleeping habits & the level of restful sleep acheived (deep sleep as opposed to passing out). Again, personally, when I stopped my insomnia (which had been a very real problem and caused me to miss some surf) disappeared completely and I have much more restful and dream filled sleep.
I would be the first to say there are far worse things and the fact that one dried out plant is legal and another is not is a farce but what does it do for you? What is the point of ingesting a substance that interferes with your neurosystems ability to function?
But I want to see these stories..or better yet, scientific research. One thing many need to realize is some people don't smoke it. By smoke it, I mean use a flame and combust. I don't do that. Look up and research the concept of vaporization. I have no breathing issues or coughing. I DO AGREE with you that putting anything into you that takes up space of oxygen in your lungs will be negative.
In regards to sleeping, if using marijuana has a negative effect on your sleep habits, then I would suggest not to use it. Again, it's not for everyone!
Do you drink?
I never drink more than the occasional one or two beers with dinner- that was not always the case, excess drinking is incredibly unhealthy, glad I left it behind 10 years ago.
You NEVER smoke up? You ONLY vape?