What i cant stand is a guy 20 fet in front of you paddling back out as your dropping in panics and jumps off his board and dives under leaving his board to bob around , now i have to avoid his free floating board and then worry where this guy is going to pop up at.
Hoenstly i would just like people to hold their position, i can negotiate a guy paddling striaght back out knowing where he is, better than someone trying bob and weave in order to miss me. I can stay high on the wave if needed to miss him then once past GO!
Agreed, that is def worse than just picking a direction and sticking to it. Sometime when i see this happen i just pull out of the wave and say screw it, its not worth possibly dinging my board and dodging idiots, I'll just get the next wave.
Had a discussion about this last summer at the break one day while staring at tiny waves. Basically more experienced surfers than I were bashing people for not knowing what's up. My response was "When you go to ski resort there's a beginner area, signs, rules, and people to direct you" Their response "Good point, you're right" If we don't tell people they'll never know and they'll always be getting in the way . That leads me to my early days when I didn't know my a$$ from a hole in the ground.....
I got caught in the break one day, rather than paddle in out of the way (which I didn't know was the right, safe thing to do) I ended up right in someone's line I still to this day remember the look on his face, and it's not a good one. What happen next changed the way I treat people when I surf, snowboard and skate. Instead of being a angry douche bag and yelling, he talked to me, hmm, that's an idea This is what he said, "Hey, you can't paddle out in the middle, there are people out here who don't know what they're doing (ha, me at the time) and they'll run you over" My point, he wasn't a d!ck about it and because he wasn't I thought about what he said and it sunk into my brain, thus I stayed out of the way from that point on and pay more attention to where I am in the water. If pulled that point break tough guy bull **** I would have just thought he was some douche bag and would not have thought about what he said at all. (Food for your thoughts)
Which leads to...... A few years ago I ran into someone while snowboarding, this kid was on an expert trail in a terrain park where he clearly should not have been. 26 years of riding and until this point I've never had a collision. His lack of experience and skill put him directly into my path. He suffered a fractured skull, brain bleed and concussion. If he did not have a helmet on he would have died on impact (yes he would have died) and I would have gone to jail (yes). All because he "had to do the expert trail". Luckily, yes, luckily for me no charges were pressed. Reality is he was wrong, in the eyes of the "rules" I was wrong. He got F'd up because he was in over his head.
My point, before you scream and go off on someone like a mad man, try I little less angry approach and someone might actually hear you.
And yes I make way for better surfers if I'm having an "off" day.
Reality is he was wrong, in the eyes of the "rules" I was wrong. He got F'd up because he was in over his head.
Very good point. No matter what the "rules" of surfing dictate. If you hurt someone, the law can consider you "out of control" and you can be considered at fault. I'm sure a good lawyer could possible help you win, but I wouldn't risk losing my house over a wave.
Instead of being a angry douche bag and yelling, he talked to me, hmm, that's an idea This is what he said, "Hey, you can't paddle out in the middle, there are people out here who don't know what they're doing (ha, me at the time) and they'll run you over" .
Yes, this is what I was going for with this thread. Spread the knowledge and the experience is better for everyone.
and fupafest, "Grow some nuts and surf in front of the jetty or keep enjoying watching the ppl with skill getting barrelled."
This brings me back. I remember a similar situation but make me 12 years old and you the guy on the peak. He told me the same thing, called me over there and said the next ones mine. Possibly the most valuable lesson that I ever learned in surfing.
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Now how about this one... the guy with priority blows it on his takeoff, and paddles right back out to the take-off spot. Nope... sorry. Because while he was paddling into oblivion, I was slipping right over into his spot for the next wave.
So... does he get the next wave because he missed his? or worse... what if he paddled into a closeout? Does he get the next wave because his wave sucked?
I agree with you LBC but what makes you so freaking mad is some self serving "****" (that word is too nice) would paddle back into the line up just far enough in front to snake you on the next set then its time to have a rail to rail chat as he thinks he owns it NO FREAKING WAY he should never re-claim priorty as he lost his spot in the line up. It happens, these "****s" if they don't re-position themselves in the line- up then look out as as you both charge wouldn't be surprised if he'll "I'll show you attitude" either grab your rail or leash to keep you off the next peak. Those actions are real game changers most of the time and they don't end well ..............
How about this scenario, it happened to me a few months ago:
Iím sitting on the outside, patiently waiting for a good set wave. Itís a beach break with both good lefts and rights breaking. There is a guy sitting about 10 feet inside of me, and just to my left (viewed from facing the ocean). I see a good peak coming (a left), and start paddling left towards the peak so that I will be closer to the peak when it breaks. The other guy is closer to the peak on the left-right axis, but I am closer on the inside-outside axis, and this is about equal in terms of distance. We both are paddling towards the peak, and I make it there first, take off in the right spot, and call him off the wave(he made every attempt to cut me off after I out paddled him) On my way back out, he paddled over to me and throws a FIT about me paddling around him, and how heíll ****ing kill me if I ever do it again.
I guess my question is, is it bad etiquette to out paddle someone to the peak, given that you are equal distances away, and both on the same type of small high-performance short board? I felt I had done nothing wrong until he started screaming at me, then I wasnít quite so sure anymore. It ruined the whole session though.