I'm located in southern new jersey. The 21-13 is 5'11 x 18 (maybe and a 1/8) x 2. the 21-13 is pretty much new too. the firewire is 5'11 x 18 x 2 1/8. the firewire is a special taj model (the special springer model that just came out) that was a prototype. so it's a rare find - and great condish