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    Quote Originally Posted by jordanschneider View Post
    not sure how entirely accurate this is, but along the lines of what was said above that the towns car charge for parking and use of beaches, but not of the water --- so i believe it is a law in some towns (long branch to be specific i think it like this) that if you are surfing on the designated surfing beach then you dont need a badge. reasoning behind that i believe is that since there are no guards on the surfing beach and you arent actually using the beach but just the water they cant force you to have a badge. same goes for fishing.
    that is good to know... would be stoked if it was like this in Long Branch (closest beach to me).

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    Delaware you pay for access to the State Park. You can purchase a sticker for the year ($27.00), this allows you access to any of the state parks. The only place that has meters left, I think is Re-****. I guess it's true in the North East... you gotta pay to play!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeroevol View Post
    Delaware you pay for access to the State Park. You can purchase a sticker for the year ($27.00), this allows you access to any of the state parks. The only place that has meters left, I think is Re-****. I guess it's true in the North East... you gotta pay to play!
    Ummm, there aren't that many beach towns in Delaware. Rehoboth, Dewey, and Bethany you have to pay to park. Not sure about Fenwick. The rest of the beach access is state parks, which you have to pay of course - in season.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aka pumpmaster View Post
    Isn't it ironic that these towns have beach tags and parking fees to pay for tag checkers and parking enforcement??
    The beach and parking are both seperate utilities that are self funded. In other words the revenues cover expenses, no real profit is made and when there is it needs to be stricktly used on expensed related directly to the utility.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Feesh View Post
    The beach and parking are both seperate utilities that are self funded. In other words the revenues cover expenses, no real profit is made and when there is it needs to be stricktly used on expensed related directly to the utility.
    I would be willing to bet a whole lot that a profit is made... You really think it costs $7 per person for beach access in order to pay for expenses... Come on... If this was the case, every town in the country would do this. The towns are making loads off this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swellinfo View Post
    I would be willing to bet a whole lot that a profit is made... You really think it costs $7 per person for beach access in order to pay for expenses... Come on... If this was the case, every town in the country would do this. The towns are making loads off this.
    Oh, I am sure there is creative accounting to not show such a big bottom line for each utility. The expenses cover maintanence and salaries. I am certain that public works salaries get charged here to free up money in the general budget which probably cannot be traced that well. The balance in these accounts are no more than 200k to 300k, again depends on the year - weather has a big effect.

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    You really think it costs $7 per person for beach access in order to pay for expenses... Come on.
    well, do the math yourself. No other group of towns in the country have a favored attraction (the beach) located within a 4 hr driving distance of about 80 million people. If said people come to our towns from other towns in giant masses and thus force our towns to add services to ensure the safety and cleanliness of the town. If the out-of-town visitor could be just be trusted to just do a few simple things like not toss their trash all over, watch over their kids in the water, not drive fast, drunk or unsafely, then there would be no reason to charge. Until that day comes, you pay.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dave View Post
    well, do the math yourself. No other group of towns in the country have a favored attraction (the beach) located within a 4 hr driving distance of about 80 million people. If said people come to our towns from other towns in giant masses and thus force our towns to add services to ensure the safety and cleanliness of the town. If the out-of-town visitor could be just be trusted to just do a few simple things like not toss their trash all over, watch over their kids in the water, not drive fast, drunk or unsafely, then there would be no reason to charge. Until that day comes, you pay.
    That doesn't seem like a very good argument. Because, you could compare to say California or Florida, which both entertain many many more beach goers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Feesh View Post
    Oh, I am sure there is creative accounting to not show such a big bottom line for each utility. The expenses cover maintanence and salaries. I am certain that public works salaries get charged here to free up money in the general budget which probably cannot be traced that well. The balance in these accounts are no more than 200k to 300k, again depends on the year - weather has a big effect.
    Creative or uncreative government accounting (depending on how you look at it) seems to be the name of the game here in New Jersey

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    as I wrote, do the math. Whatever someone who does not live in and pay property taxes to town with an ocean beach thinks the argument for beach badges "seems" shaky -- the math doesn't lie. Take data points like square mileage of beach, population density, population clusters, modes of transportation to the beach, etc. and you will find that NJ's beaches serve by far the most densely populated beachgoing public in the country.