If you beat the checkers there thats the way to go.Ive never been kicked out of the water.Like the previous post said you do have to surf in the surfing beach.I belive bodyboarders are free to rome.If you do get a badge, shop around.Its amazing how one town might be alot more money then the town over.For the biggest bang for your buck,that would be Sandy hook.It was like a car load of people for $ 50 bucs for the year.Rumor has it they surf nude over there thou.
welcome to new jersey! tax capital of america! my taxes aren't so much on my house, because the towns takes in enough through beach badges. my taxes actually only did go up 2% percent this year. unlike a lot of others who's went up 4% in other towns. up north in bergen county where i'm from homes worth $200k grand less than mine pay double property taxes almost. mine are already $8k grand. i have no complaints aside from my street being filled with potholes. it would be nice if that was fixed, but if you call up the town, and complain they'll just tell you in november vote yes to increase property taxes, and i think i'm paying enough, and would rather get ****ed than vote yes on that. my 73 year old neighbor had to go back to work, and get a job after being retired for years just to cover his property taxes, and other bills. i don't know what the schools are like. they are spoken high of, but i don't have any kids yet, so i don't know first hand. that, and they're paying the town cops $100k grand, and they aint getting shot at. $100k grand to write seat belt tickets, and take complaints for stolen bicycles that aren't locked up.
there's more than we all realize going on. everyone keeps telling me to read the book soprano state. it has nothing to do with the sopranos, but it's all about new jersey, and corruption. one friend of mine told me he was only 25 pages through last i talked to him, and told me i wouldn't even wanna read those 25 pages! i have to say the beaches are kept really nice though. MOST of them. atlantic city is not. maybe it's because it's a free beach, or maybe because of how much activity it gets. wildwood has free beaches, and all of the wildwood's have pretty clean beaches for being free. their towns takes in all that money with the boardwalk, and morey's though.
well, do the math yourself. No other group of towns in the country have a favored attraction (the beach) located within a 4 hr driving distance of about 80 million people. If said people come to our towns from other towns in giant masses and thus force our towns to add services to ensure the safety and cleanliness of the town. If the out-of-town visitor could be just be trusted to just do a few simple things like not toss their trash all over, watch over their kids in the water, not drive fast, drunk or unsafely, then there would be no reason to charge. Until that day comes, you pay.
IN N.W.W and Strathmere you dont need a beach tag and the beaches are clean and the trash is emptied in the can all the time you dont see them overflowing at all . You can pay the meters on the street or park 2 block from the beach or park for free,or you can pay 150 dollars for a parking pass to park at any meter all day for the whole year and it trasferable from car to car.
But what dont drunk driving shoobies have to do with beach tags and beach budget???? the would be a police issue wouldnt it????
Originally Posted by dave
as I wrote, do the math. Whatever someone who does not live in and pay property taxes to town with an ocean beach thinks the argument for beach badges "seems" shaky -- the math doesn't lie. Take data points like square mileage of beach, population density, population clusters, modes of transportation to the beach, etc. and you will find that NJ's beaches serve by far the most densely populated beachgoing public in the country.
If NJ beach serve the most beach going public then shouldnt all ther revenu from sales tax of buying goods and home owners taxes and hotel motel association taxes have enought revenue for each shore town so there should be no need to charge for something that was and will be here long after we are gone.
In most towns Beach Badges really aren't that bad. It's like $30 - $40 for the summer, which essentially is about 2.5 - 3 months. In many towns the checkers don't even start until a week or two after Memorial Day and end by Labor day. Without the fee there would be no one controlling the idiots who flock to our beaches. The fees allow the towns to control the trash, the rudeness, and the insanity that occurs on a packed beach where there are so many people you can't even find a spot to put your towel.
What I do have a problem with is towns that intentionally make parking an issue (Sea Bright and Monmouth are a good example) and the fact that most towns force surfers into a small "surfing beach" during the guarded hours because they are afraid a surfer might hurt a swimmer. Really the towns are probably opening themselves up to the greater risk of a surfer hurting another surfer while packed into the surfing beach. There's no reason we should not be allowed to surf outside the flags.
new jersey government has always been corrupt.
where is surfrider?
Beach badges origins are unconstitutional.
they made up a law that 'beach associations' can 'buy' and 'own' the beach back in the '50's.
federal land use law stating beaches are free for everyone is ignored here,but other places keep us out by making parking impossible.
surfrider does nothing for us here.
like in Hatteras with their problem.
The Cape Hatteras National Recreation Seahore Area.
Depending on the town, surfers / swimmers are allowed to go straight to the water without a beach tag. You can get on the beach for free that way too, but keep in mind you can really only bring your board (and maybe a towel) with you - otherwise they know you are going to be hanging out on the sand as well...
summer crowds in the northeast is legit. i'm sure there's widespread corruption and abuse by local town officials with the beach pass laws but you can't just let the crowds run wild because they will trash the place. i'm originally from florida and i'm still pretty shocked at how packed the beaches get up here. you gotta see it to believe it.