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  1. #21
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cisco the Kid View Post
    Ill get the true pictures up this evening. but this is essentially the same board (same dimensions and shaper)

    http://www.tcsurf.com/surfboards/shortboards/w2.aspx

    I'll put the dimensions up later as well.
    I would personnaly find that board extremely frustrating in 95% of the waves i ride...basically that is made for well overhead hollow surf. It probably has a lot of rocker, will paddle poorly in chest high and under, will bog down on any mushy sections, and will turn stiffly in small - medium sized waves.

  2. #22
    Quote Originally Posted by Cisco the Kid View Post
    Ill get the true pictures up this evening. but this is essentially the same board (same dimensions and shaper)

    http://www.tcsurf.com/surfboards/shortboards/w2.aspx

    I'll put the dimensions up later as well.
    the word 'hawaii' should give you pause.

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    Quote Originally Posted by travy View Post
    the word 'hawaii' should give you pause.
    If not that, then certainly the part about 8-20 ft faces.

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    I would definitely bring that board to Hawaiian 10ft pipeline

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    Pumpmaster and Mitchell nailed it. That's all your really need to know about that board. Yes... you made a mistake. But hold onto that board. Once you're skill level gets up there, you might be able to find it works well for you once the surf starts approaching DOH.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LBCrew View Post
    Pumpmaster and Mitchell nailed it. That's all your really need to know about that board. Yes... you made a mistake. But hold onto that board. Once you're skill level gets up there, you might be able to find it works well for you once the surf starts approaching DOH.
    Right on. I am 5'9'' and 160 and had a BLAST surfing 3-4 ft overhead on my 7'2'' pintail last fall. Lots of barrels, holds in a steep takeoff. Yes, I did bring it home from my Hawaii days and would never have bought it back here (much less been able to find one like it or someone who would know how to make a good one). Looks to me like Cisco is going to order a brand new one. Bad idea...as I said before, contrary to the many posters who decided to stuff words in my mouth.

    I stand by my opinion to stay away from a fish shape, unless by 'fish' you mean a thruster with a wider-than-normal nose, slightly wider tail, and a little extra thickness. That's not really a fish, by the way, though it would serve you well most days on the east coast. If you're going to buy one board and one board only, I'd stick with this, though even better (in my opinion, which is completely subjective, much like this whole discussion) would be a slightly more sleek quad-fin. I'm a huge quad fan and have ridden everything from waist high mush to head-high and hollow...works every time! When the waves start pushing overhead, I opt for my 6'4'' round pin. People seem to think riding a longer pintail means you can't surf well. From my experience, it means you'll make the takeoff damn near every time and have no problem riding deep in the pocket, which is where you really want to be when the waves get hollow 3-4x a year.

    As for the fish, I'd ride one in most of SoCal, VA Beach, Assateague, places like that. The true fish, for those who don't know this, was invented by a guy named Steve Lis in Sunset Beach. He started shaping them for the exclusive purpose of ripping the crap out of slower (and usually smaller) waves. Can Rob Machado ride one at Pipe? Sure, but that doesn't mean you should. He could probably ride a trash can lid if need be. Perhaps some people here go for the twin fin boat in bigger waves, and more power to them.

    The diversity of opinions here reflects the fact that much of board selection IS subjective. You ride the shape that (1) works and (2) gives the feel you want. Because different people have different opinions does not mean most of us inherently wrong. It means we have different tastes, surf different waves, have different styles, etc. You can dismiss my advice if you choose...I contribute to be helpful. You might want to consider, however, that I have over ten years of surfing experience on five continents. I guarantee lots of folks here can top that by A LOT. Thats why I love these types of threads. There's so much sharing of knowledge and opinion that would have never been possible otherwise.
    Last edited by live aloha; Jun 2, 2011 at 06:20 PM. Reason: type-o (eek!)

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    Quote Originally Posted by cresto4 View Post
    if you take this advice then you are also ignoring this advice. trippy.
    Whoa...you just blew my mind.

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    Quote Originally Posted by live aloha View Post
    As for the fish, I'd ride one in most of SoCal, VA Beach, Assateague, places like that. The true fish, for those who don't know this, was invented by a guy named Steve Lis in Sunset Beach.
    Pretty sure you mean Sunset Cliffs...i'm not sure he would have invented 5'6" twinnies if he had lived in Sunset Beach...

    I agree with you about the subjectivity tho.. i really only like riding my longboard and keel twin in fast lined up steep waves, and i know a lot of people like riding both of those kind of boards in 2 foot mush.
    Last edited by mitchell; Jun 2, 2011 at 10:54 PM.

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    well i got the dimensions wrong

    7'0 x 21 x 2 1/3

    I have NO intentions of buying a new board here. In fact this pintail is a board I got second hand. I've spotted a board on craig's list 6'8" x 20 1/8" x 2 5/8" squash tail shaped by Tim Nolte - USED - for $350 w/ board bag, fins and leash. I'm going to have a look at it today and see if it's the right one.

    All the advice I've received is super helpful even when it contradicts the last comment someone had. I skateboarded for about 10 years and still do on occasion. Much like surfing, the set up you have on a skateboard, wheel softness, size, truck size, truck tightness, deck length, width, concave, etc. is totally determined by the style of skating, location, and type of skateboarder.

    Guess I'll keep sampling designs and asking for opinions until i find a good fit. thanks again. And i'll get those epic "rhino chaser" pictures up soon enough.

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    Ha! This thread is too funny.

    I am 6'2" and 200lbs, and I agree that board isn't going to work well most east coast surf. BUT - my first board - the one that I learned on - was a 7'0" semi-gun, narrow and thin with lots of rocker, bought used and totally not made for most east coast surf. I like to say boards like that build character - [if you're like me] you will miss a bunch of waves paddling from too far outside, then adjust to start closer and closer to the break until your take-offs are so late you'll be pitched over the falls half the time... It will take some time to dial in and will be frustrating in small surf, but it will force you to paddle hard if you want to catch a wave, and on those rare overhead days you'll be glad you have something that can handle it.

    TL;DR - ride it, paddle hard. then switch to something else.