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  1. #1
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    Yes... we know who you are

    On the road... in the water... on the beach... in the bar... You stand out like a sore thumb. You're not from here, but you either think you are, or wish you were. But we can tell. Everything you does screams "non-local."... the way you drive, the way you dress, the way you cut your hair, the way you order a beer, the girl you're with (who, ironically, can tell the non-locals from the locals as well as we can). You're not from around here....

    ... and that's OK. When we travel, we're "not from here" either. But you can fit right in if you...

    1) accept the fact that you're a visitor.
    2) look around and learn what's socially acceptable
    3) respect the local norms and customs, and GIVE IT YOUR BEST SHOT to try to fit in.

    Nobody expects you to understand every nuance of local custom. Jut make the freakin' effort. When I travel, I consider myself a guest. I make a special effort to have the bloody where-with-all to LEARN something at every opportunity.

    Pay attention. We'll get along a lot better when you slow down, look around, and finally realize... you don't own the joint, you're just lucky to be here for now.

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    Man, this is the 15,000th post about locals and non locals....we already know. I am sick of hearing people wine about this gay ****. It's going to be like this forever until the ocean dries up, so get used to it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lbcrew View Post
    on the road... In the water... On the beach... In the bar... You stand out like a sore thumb. You're not from here, but you either think you are, or wish you were. But we can tell. Everything you does screams "non-local."... The way you drive, the way you dress, the way you cut your hair, the way you order a beer, the girl you're with (who, ironically, can tell the non-locals from the locals as well as we can). You're not from around here....



    ... And that's ok. When we travel, we're "not from here" either. But you can fit right in if you...

    1) accept the fact that you're a visitor.
    2) look around and learn what's socially acceptable
    3) respect the local norms and customs, and give it your best shot to try to fit in.

    Nobody expects you to understand every nuance of local custom. Jut make the freakin' effort. When i travel, i consider myself a guest. I make a special effort to have the bloody where-with-all to learn something at every opportunity.

    Pay attention. We'll get along a lot better when you slow down, look around, and finally realize... You don't own the joint, you're just lucky to be here for now.
    bitter party of one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by super fish View Post
    Man, this is the 15,000th post about locals and non locals....we already know. I am sick of hearing people wine about this gay ****. It's going to be like this forever until the ocean dries up, so get used to it.
    What he said.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LBCrew View Post
    you can fit right in if you...

    1) accept the fact that you're a visitor.
    2) look around and learn what's socially acceptable
    3) respect the local norms and customs, and GIVE IT YOUR BEST SHOT to try to fit in.

    Nobody expects you to understand every nuance of local custom. Jut make the freakin' effort. When I travel, I consider myself a guest. I make a special effort to have the bloody where-with-all to LEARN something at every opportunity.

    Pay attention. We'll get along a lot better when you slow down, look around, and finally realize... you don't own the joint, you're just lucky to be here for now.
    interesting post. what happens when you travel someplace where surfing (and all that goes along with it) isn't socially acceptable or part of the local culture? would 'fitting in' mean dressing like the locals do instead of walking around in nothing but trunks? shaving our heads? drinking rum with milk? would it mean not surfing at all?

    culture is fluid and dynamic - always changing through contact. and sometimes WE (the non-locals) are the change-makers. i lived in panama in the early 90s for 2 years and in the village where i lived not one local surfed. not one. they didn't even have the words to describe surfing and surfboards. groms would typically spend their middle/high school years diving/fishing/hunting and helping to feed their families.

    now- almost 20 years later - guess what? surfing (and the habits and language that go along with it) have become a part of the local culture because of all of the contact with (non-local) surfers from all over the world passing through, leaving boards behind, etc.

    these days groms down in old bank just want to grow dreads, burn herbs, surf, and score white girls. not necessarily in that order. so the locals are now trying to 'fit in' to a cultural activity that was imported from elsewhere/exported by non-locals. is this a good thing? a bad thing? i think it's just the way the world works.

    i'd say no matter where you go just be who you are but be sure to be polite.

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    Quote Originally Posted by super fish View Post
    Man, this is the 15,000th post about locals and non locals....we already know. I am sick of hearing people wine about this gay ****. It's going to be like this forever until the ocean dries up, so get used to it.
    that's no excuse for bad behavior. good manners, respect for others, & common sense are not things to be left behind in one's home town.
    we don't ask much, but we DO ask that you behave here the way you behave at home (preferably better).

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    Quote Originally Posted by cresto4 View Post


    i'd say no matter where you go just be who you are but be sure to be polite.
    i'll second that

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    Quote Originally Posted by njsurfer42 View Post
    that's no excuse for bad behavior. good manners, respect for others, & common sense are not things to be left behind in one's home town.
    we don't ask much, but we DO ask that you behave here the way you behave at home (preferably better).
    X1000. Too many people show up at spots expecting everyone to conform to their way of thinking when they forget the many of the guys out, surf that spot year round.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aka pumpmaster View Post
    X1000. Too many people show up at spots expecting everyone to conform to their way of thinking when they forget the many of the guys out, surf that spot year round.
    I was standing on the beach thursday afternoon after two hours of small clean waves, thinking i had just had some fun. The two guys i was chatting with both surf that spot 100+ days a year. Some stranger walks up to us while were talking, holding a camera and starts asking "why are the rides are so short" , and "it seems like its a long time between waves" , makes it clear hes never been to this beach before, and drops the names of other places hes been (that pump non-stop of course) all in the first 30 seconds.

    He wasnt even trying to be irritating, but he sure succeeded.

  10. #10
    LBCREW, i feel your pain. The guys who are getting offended aren't locals, and I think that was your point. No one wants to hear it, but is true, and critical this time of year.

    If you do not live somewhere, try to keep a low profile while there. You are not going to take a town by storm, like you may think as you do your hair gel in the mirror and wax up your new $1000 log. Like Mitchell said, every spot has a core group of people who surf it rain or shine, 100's of days a year. You are not going to impress them. They are pissed that you come down (or up, whatever) once a year to get drunk as ****, act a fool, clog up the line up, and get the local po-po all wound up. When I travel, yes, im the Gringo, but I have learned the hard way to keep your mouth shut, smile in the face of insults, and stay away from certain scenes. Let your surfing speak for you, and if you suck, make sure it doesn't speak too loudly.

    In short- You are always welcome at "my beach", just don't be a 8===> And F surfing, i'm talking about driving too! I know its vacation, and I know its a hemi, but you probably don't have to burn out at every stop light.

    Pura-vida **** heads!