LOGIN | REGISTER

Page 6 of 7 FirstFirst ... 4567 LastLast
Results 51 to 60 of 62
  1. #51
    Quote Originally Posted by aka pumpmaster View Post
    Rod, don't you work for the govt?
    Yes. I did. Now... can't you put up or shut up on the issue -- take the 2011 U.S. Federal Budget proposal sent to congress and show your audience which 90% you would cut and which 10% you would keep (re" "our govt can do it core mission at about a 10th of its current size").

  2. #52
    Join Date
    Apr 2008
    Location
    In a state of flux
    Posts
    3,305
    See previous post.

  3. #53
    Quote Originally Posted by aka pumpmaster View Post
    Read on: http://www.gao.gov/new.items/d11318sp.pdf

    Also, eliminate the ATF and DEA
    Eliminate the NEA
    Eliminate the Dept of Education
    Introduce a flat tax and gut the IRS
    Shut down all European military bases
    Implement a balanced budget amendment to the Constitution for force spending prioritization

    I could go on all day.
    The GAO report is a good start but the outlays identified are only a drop in the bucket in reducing 90% of the current (2011) Federal Budget. The items you listed are minor expenditures relative to the total Federal budget, but ever bit helps. Please dig a little deeper, identify the total Federal budget, listed by major line item and outlay (cost) and the items and amounts you would reduce from each of those top level line items. Please account for duplication (e.g., for all the European military bases you would close do you also assume the billet is eliminated or does the billet return to a base in the USA -- military personnel is a major cost in the DOD budget so that decision matters). Also address some basic issues such as logistical support to our military for operations in Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, Yemen, Pakistan and elsewhere from those bases in Europe, e.g., medical).

  4. #54
    Your assertions are so reaching... here is something concrete:
    US Fed Budget 2011 3,833,861,000,000
    DEA 2,130,000,000
    ATF 1,163,000,000

    Two of the six items you listed are barely rounding error in context of the total budget, not even 0.09% (less than one-tenth of a percent) of the Federal budget proposed for 2011. Your 90% budget reduction goal is now at the 89.91% bar!!!
    Last edited by rodndtube; Jun 29, 2011 at 06:45 PM.

  5. #55
    Join Date
    Apr 2008
    Location
    In a state of flux
    Posts
    3,305
    Gotta start somewhere. How about mandatory 5% staff reductions for all federal agencies except active military, followed by 5% pay cuts with no increase for 4 years. Eliminate the entitlement for welfare programs and replace with means testing with a work requirement.

  6. #56
    Quote Originally Posted by aka pumpmaster View Post
    Gotta start somewhere. How about mandatory 5% staff reductions for all federal agencies except active military, followed by 5% pay cuts with no increase for 4 years. Eliminate the entitlement for welfare programs and replace with means testing with a work requirement.
    Not good enough. Show the cuts without speaking in generalities. Fiver percent pay cuts or staff reductions for federal employees or the federal workforce is still a drop in the bucket and doesn't address your assertion of "core functions" that make up only 10% of the Federal budget. The generalities sound nice, but the devil is in the details. The Fiscal Year 2011 Federal Budget is on-line -- go to it and spell it out.

    Don't forget the Department of Defense entitlement programs including its military personnel. DOD is the single largest "socialist" organization in the USA with government run health care, shopping, recreation, retirement, housing, insurance, etc. Is it fair to assume you believe government run = bad? Then there are the multitude of defense pork barrel programs. And speaking of duplication, does the Dept of Defense need 5 navies, 5 air forces, and 3 armies?

  7. #57
    Join Date
    Sep 2010
    Location
    Wilmington,DE
    Posts
    233
    Images
    1

  8. #58
    Join Date
    Sep 2009
    Location
    Norfolk, VA
    Posts
    396

    LOL. Well, as expected.....


  9. #59
    Join Date
    Nov 2009
    Location
    in the grace of the most holy FSM
    Posts
    3,449
    Quote Originally Posted by Ray F. View Post
    LMAO!

    sad, but true.

  10. #60
    Quote Originally Posted by njsurfer42 View Post
    LMAO!

    sad, but true.
    Very sad and so true. The moral of the story is, "I like to spend on things I like, not on things I do not like." The crux of the above argument above... I want the gov't to pay for roads, not wind farms.

    Yup, the debt is very high -- not surprising in a time of economic downturn. Maybe the Swedish model isn't so bad... save money in times of plenty for times in need. In other words, don't roll up debt in good times (~2002-2007) so you have some left over when needed (2008-2011?).