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  1. #11
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    Quote Originally Posted by travy View Post
    so those of us getting snaked should be more patient? sorry, i'm not buying the beginners argument. if you know enough to paddle out on the peak and how to paddle inside of someone you know 'the code'. 99 percent of the time the person who needs to be 'more patient' is the one doing the snaking as it is often the locals who are the main offenders.
    +1
    what he said

  2. #12
    First thing I asked as a beginner was, "what is the ethics of surfing". I didn't want to look like an idiot and piss people off, so asked what was appropriate.

  3. #13

    Really?

    Lemme get this straight: Someone went out to a designated surf beach on July 4, the single most crowded day with down-for-the-day folks and their rental softtops, on a day when the surf was 1' or less and they're complaining that they got "snaked" by a logger? Really? How long have you been surfing Long Beach? That's just how it's been since...oh, I don't know, forever? I strongly suggest dp at a non-surf designated beach.

    C'mon, it was an epic bikini watching day, not even a mediocre surf day! As I remember it, no one was catching waves that morning, except maybe one of the janitors. Besides, those epic, summer, 1', wind swell waves were breaking right on the beach that morning. The fog was insane (couldn't see the guy 20' away from me) the tide killed it by 7:30 AM and then the winds went west, killing whatever was left.

  4. #14
    Quote Originally Posted by MFitz73 View Post
    you should have snaked her then a few times. from what I understand Long Beach is not a pleasant place to surf during the summer. they really aught to open up at least 2 more beaches to thin the crowds a bit.

    was this girl at least cute?
    What are you talking about, Rockaway? If someone insists on surfing between 9:00 AM and 6:00 PM, there are seven designated surf beaches: Two all year round/all day surf beaches, another two other beaches that are surf beaches in the mornings only, and then the regular weekly rotating surf beach and now the new weekly rotating surf beaches in the West End! Don't be lazy, walk or drive a little further to the next surf beach. Doesn't take much to go to the City of Long Beach website and click on the surf beach schedule.
    Last edited by kumachan; Jul 6, 2011 at 10:15 PM.

  5. #15
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    Quote Originally Posted by kumachan View Post
    Lemme get this straight: Someone went out to a designated surf beach on July 4, the single most crowded day with down-for-the-day folks and their rental softtops, on a day when the surf was 1' or less and they're complaining that they got "snaked" by a logger? Really? How long have you been surfing Long Beach? That's just how it's been since...oh, I don't know, forever? I strongly suggest dp at a non-surf designated beach.

    C'mon, it was an epic bikini watching day, not even a mediocre surf day! As I remember it, no one was catching waves that morning, except maybe one of the janitors. Besides, those epic, summer, 1', wind swell waves were breaking right on the beach that morning. The fog was insane (couldn't see the guy 20' away from me) the tide killed it by 7:30 AM and then the winds went west, killing whatever was left.
    You're right, it was foggy as hell and breaking on shore in the morning, so it did suck in the morning. I was hoping it would be better but it wasn't. Oh well. I sat on the beach for the fog to clear and for the tide to come down. I was there before most people were on the beach waiting to get some waves without worrying about when I got back (I work full time).

    When the time got in there were some rideable longboard waves, but the beach got a lot more crowded, especially when the fog burned off.

    Look dude, I don't care that the waves weren't epic. I don't expect every day to be epic. I get out as much as I can and try to ride as often as possible, even if it's mush. I love surfing and it doesn't matter whether it's knee-high mush or overhead barrels. A ****ty day in the surf is ten times better than the best days I have on land. It also helps me to resolve a lot of any of the issues I'm having in my life to get out and surf, so I do it as much as possible. So what if the waves were mediocre?

    In any case, I did get a few really decent waves that I got some long rides out of. Those waves were paid for by like half hours of waiting each, but they were there. That made it all worth it.

    I was on a log. I'm fine with people riding longboards. I just think it's poor ethos to ride a massively oversized longboard and then grab waves way out and expect people to get out of your way because you were standing on your barge before the people inside. It's one thing to longboard—that's a style/"right board for the right day" type thing. It's another thing to surf a board with enough volume to surf a 210+lb man as an ~110lb woman. That's absurd.

    Also, as a longboarder I try to give shortboarders waves that they will be in the better position for, even if I can get up before them. If I accidentally do take such a wave, I apologize for crowding them out. I do consider it snaking, even if they are up first.

  6. #16
    I'm with Sloop John B. Snaking is snaking. You want to wait and let people snake you and be patient and wait for your one wave of the day then good for you. I'll let them do it once or twice then I'm dropping in on them. And when the snake gets an attitude I'll be more than sure to let them know the do's and don'ts. Unlike some people who want to be door mats, I'd rather set the record straight. That way on future days snaker will know the deal. Rather than me sitting there letting them have their way on the beach. I've learned with the snakes its best to ignore them and go for the waves you want. They'll get the picture your not going to put up with them. Works all the time. P.S. They know what they are doing.

  7. #17

    tough guys talking

    Do you all have any idea how stupid this kind of talk is??? Who's the guy who said he fires boards at the heads of the person who dropped in on him??? What a complete jackass... You're *****ing about a lady on a log catchig knee-high waves. KNEE HIGH WAVES!!! Get over yourselves and get a board that's appropriate for the conditions. Fifty bucks says that board firing guy buys equipment that he has no business riding, but he's out there trying to kill somebody.

    Get some perspective and get a realistic board. Stop pretending that a photographer is shooting you from the jetty 'cause chances are you can't get out of your own way. To the rest of you - maybe a lady dominating you in knee-high slop is going to change the way you think, and where I come from if someone is out fighting over crap waves trying to put another guy in the hospital, you'll be the one getting F&#*@# up. Smarten up.

  8. #18
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    Quote Originally Posted by mv1 View Post
    Do you all have any idea how stupid this kind of talk is??? Who's the guy who said he fires boards at the heads of the person who dropped in on him??? What a complete jackass... You're *****ing about a lady on a log catchig knee-high waves. KNEE HIGH WAVES!!! Get over yourselves and get a board that's appropriate for the conditions. Fifty bucks says that board firing guy buys equipment that he has no business riding, but he's out there trying to kill somebody.

    Get some perspective and get a realistic board. Stop pretending that a photographer is shooting you from the jetty 'cause chances are you can't get out of your own way. To the rest of you - maybe a lady dominating you in knee-high slop is going to change the way you think, and where I come from if someone is out fighting over crap waves trying to put another guy in the hospital, you'll be the one getting F&#*@# up. Smarten up.
    I was on an appropriate board for the conditions, and I was catching waves. I'm about 200 pounds and I was on a classic 9'10" from the '60s. That's entirely an appropriate size for knee-to-waist-high waves. If you're a tiny person about 110 pounds a 10'+ modern longboard is not appropriate. I'm sorry, but that's just way more flotation than you need. Of course she's going to get up first. I'm not even sure if you weigh that much with a board like that if you need any water running under the board to stand up on it . . .

    In a situation like that, being up first doesn't mean it's your wave.

    So what if the waves were small that day? Waves are always a commodity. I surf because I enjoy surfing. I'm not always looking for the biggest, baddest waves every time I go out. It makes me happy to be out in the ocean and on a wave (no matter the size), and it makes me forget about all of the other bull**** that goes on in my life. I don't want to have to deal with more bull**** in the ocean when that's exactly what I'm trying to escape.

    She wasn't dominating me. Haha. I ride pretty well. I was just objecting to people using extreme board size to catch waves instead of catching them on something that makes sense for their size, and expecting me to bail when you're catching waves way outside the lineup. Sorry, if someone's in the better position inside of you, you should give them the wave even if you're on it first.

    It doesn't matter what size the waves are. Respect is respect.

  9. #19
    Quote Originally Posted by mv1 View Post
    Do you all have any idea how stupid this kind of talk is??? Who's the guy who said he fires boards at the heads of the person who dropped in on him??? What a complete jackass... You're *****ing about a lady on a log catchig knee-high waves. KNEE HIGH WAVES!!! Get over yourselves and get a board that's appropriate for the conditions. Fifty bucks says that board firing guy buys equipment that he has no business riding, but he's out there trying to kill somebody.

    Get some perspective and get a realistic board. Stop pretending that a photographer is shooting you from the jetty 'cause chances are you can't get out of your own way. To the rest of you - maybe a lady dominating you in knee-high slop is going to change the way you think, and where I come from if someone is out fighting over crap waves trying to put another guy in the hospital, you'll be the one getting F&#*@# up. Smarten up.
    normally i never beef with anyone. just kinda snapped i guess. honestly would've been really bummed if the guy had gotten hit. though i suppose you should be careful about who you snake.

  10. #20
    I think it comes down to basic courtesy and common sense. I was out today and some tool on a sit down board was hogging most of the waves. Same thing. He can paddle way out and catch almost anything. Don't go right through the line up and screw everyone else. I stopped letting him through and just caught waves weather he was there or not. I let him have a wave or two but when he kept doing it, it was too much. Same with the SUPers.