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View Poll Results: Who are you planning on voting for in the 2012 presidential election?

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  • Barack Obama

    25 36.76%
  • Mitt Romney

    5 7.35%
  • Ron Paul

    26 38.24%
  • Michele Bachmann

    1 1.47%
  • Herman Cain

    4 5.88%
  • Newt Gingrich

    1 1.47%
  • Tim Pawlenty

    2 2.94%
  • Rudi Giulliani

    1 1.47%
  • Rick Perry

    0 0%
  • Sarah Palin

    3 4.41%
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    ray and surfrr,good points,and,i don't know exactly,either,but i know it's a big hit i'm taking,and totally sucks,and nobody just gets less after 16 years and likes it,and schools can not be compared to businesses,and right,i should feel effects for reasons you've stated,but this fat slob is just as much of a phony a-hole as the next politician,and if you had my perspective you'd be better able to see that.reminds of of the time i said jack johnson's music sucks,don't dare say anything bad about yoga or chris christie.or airs.sorry,i'm not gonna say i'm right,but i hate jack johnson's music,yoga,christie and airs.

    lee,you can re-write my post for me if you want.didn't know you wanted the king's english.maybe matt can help you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by leethestud View Post
    Please, God, tell me that you are not an English teacher. It looks like a 13 year old girl 'tweeted' this post in from her sidekick.

    Good one....

  3. #143
    i know diddley about politics and economics but why the f would anyone want to make cuts on education???? teachers should be treated like kings. im neither and im not all that political so my opinion isnt driven by money or anything. kids of today are our countries future and apparently we are not that high on the list of countries with good educations.not very promising is it? one of the biggest influences in my life was a teacher i ran into 10 years after high school. cant say where i was headed but i werent good and that lady helped me get right. respect them and support them especially if ya got kids.
    Last edited by ripturbo; Jul 22, 2011 at 02:11 PM.

  4. #144
    Quote Originally Posted by beachbreak View Post
    ray and surfrr,good points,and,i don't know exactly,either,but i know it's a big hit i'm taking,and totally sucks,and nobody just gets less after 16 years and likes it,and schools can not be compared to businesses,and right,i should feel effects for reasons you've stated,but this fat slob is just as much of a phony a-hole as the next politician,and if you had my perspective you'd be better able to see that.reminds of of the time i said jack johnson's music sucks,don't dare say anything bad about yoga or chris christie.or airs.sorry,i'm not gonna say i'm right,but i hate jack johnson's music,yoga,christie and airs.

    lee,you can re-write my post for me if you want.didn't know you wanted the king's english.maybe matt can help you.
    Is this the same pandering governor, defender of the over-taxed, that feels entitled to ride the state government helicopter to attend his son's baseball games before heading off to political fund raising events?

    I am not familiar with the particulars of the New Jersey budget situation, but know enough of this form of logic: "many teachers are union members therefore teachers are bad" is a logical fallacy. And pity the town with the fire chief making $120K/yr. How did THAT happen... after all, it was a "small town."

    It is also easy to throw out this tidbit -- a good friend of mine, a private sector employee, was doing very well during the boom days, really gloating on his year end bonuses of $30k, $40k and so on, and wondering why I would ever want to be a federal employee with merit pay bonuses of $600, $1,200 and maybe $1,800. Well, that person didn't make wise investments, blew through most of his bonus money, and now complains about taxes and overpaid government workers.

    Back to the most socialistic enterprise in the USA: the military. Some debt reduction proposals, considered to be outlandish, would cut $100B/yr for 10 yrs, or $1 trillion total. Sheep. Why not $200B/yr for $2 trillion over 10 years? That still leaves $400B+ annually. Why continue to subsidize military personnel costs which have been soaring for the past 20 years? Why continue to subsidize housing, health care, recreation, day care, retirement, food and every day goods and services? Why does the DOD need a first class hotel on the best beaches of Waikiki? Why do military bases need their own golf courses? Why hasn't TRICARE insurance rates increased in 15 years? Why does the US need to keep buying gold plated weapon systems?

  5. #145
    Quote Originally Posted by beachbreak View Post
    lee,you can re-write my post for me if you want.didn't know you wanted the king's english.maybe matt can help you.
    Just saw an opportunity to prod the fire a bit. I love watching this kind of sh*t unfold. Good on you for being a teacher, we need more of 'em who actually give a flying F about anything besides when the clock strikes 2:30 or whenever.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ripturbo View Post
    i know diddley about politics and economics but why the f would anyone want to make cuts on education???? teachers should be treated like kings. im neither and im not all that political so my opinion isnt driven by money or anything. kids of today are our countries future and apparently we are not that high on the list of countries with good educations.not very promising is it? one of the biggest influences in my life was a teacher i ran into 10 years after high school. cant say where i was headed but i werent good and that lady helped me get right. respect them and support them especially if ya got kids.
    It's not a matter of who should get treated better. Teachers do a thankless job. So do police, paramedics & firerighters. My father was a Long Branch firefighter for 30 years (not a volunteer). I believe somebody mentioned $120K retirement salary. First off, that's the city's decision. Not Christie's. Secondly, things must have changed...a lot. After 20 years as a firefighter (in 1989), my father was making $26k per year. He never didn't have a second job. He had to, just to support the family in a 3 br/1bath bungalow. Now, his medicare is going to take a hit & he's 75 years old. His only comment was "They don't have the money...they have to." He's not living large by any means. He's just lacking the bitter sense of entitlement that seems contageous these days.

    I'm a military retiree.....20 years. I've been to Afghanistan once and Iraq three times. You know what, my medical care will no-doubt be affected by the upcoming budget. I can't see how it can't. Furthermore, I'm now a GS. My pay is indefinately frozen, just like the NJ teachers. Should I be pissed that the GOP is recommending huge cuts to federal programs & be an Obama fanboy? I guess if making money was my primary goal in life....sure. If that's case, I picked the wrong business. I can shelter & feed my family in a free country during a time that a lot of people are far less fortunate. I even get to surf (when there's waves). Being well off is relative. Think about it.

    My point? Bringing it back on topic, it's foolish to not think that continuing to add to the country's debt by failing to make cuts will have a happy ending. At over $4 billion dollars a day added to the national debt, we've got a reckoning coming. Take some serious cuts & tighten our collective belts now(GOP proposal) or add, substantially, to the national debt & take catastrophic cuts later (Obama proposal). Nobody's getting away with anything. I vote for get it done now and start getting better. I don't hate him, but Obama has to go.
    Last edited by Ray F.; Jul 22, 2011 at 04:21 PM.

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    excellent,Ray,thanks.Some of you guys were very helpful here,and I learned something.Now I'll suck it up and take my hit like everybody else.I'm sorry if I offended anyone.But I still think Christie is a phony just like the rest.John Stossel for President!Or Superintendent of Schools in my Distrcit

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    http://www.rasmussenreports.com/publ...41_ron_paul_37

    interesting poll shows the extent that Americans want for "actual" change! Ron Paul is not exactly main stream, doesn't have the charming looks, etc....

    It's early..will he win the primary? Probably not, but the poll does give hope to the Tea Party movement in this country. Can't wait for the next round of congressional elections (hopefully the tide keeps turning)...not just the presidential election.

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    what does su(k...is how low Herman Cain polls against Obama. I think Herman Cain would be great as well!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by beachbreak View Post
    excellent,Ray,thanks.Some of you guys were very helpful here,and I learned something.Now I'll suck it up and take my hit like everybody else.I'm sorry if I offended anyone.But I still think Christie is a phony just like the rest.John Stossel for President!Or Superintendent of Schools in my Distrcit
    You didn't offend me, brother. I agree...they're all corrupt. Honest people can't raise the amount of money it takes to campaign. If you accept that as a fact, the only question that remains is who's sponsoring.

    That's why I laugh when I hear uber liberals talk about how Bush had corporate strings. Hell yeah, he did. So did Gore, Kerry & Obama...as well as union backing. They're all dirty. What we fail to focus on, however, is what's going on with the lawmakers...Congress. While all the eyes are on the Presidency, Congressmen are wheeling and dealing. I'll vote for your special interest bill if you vote for mine. That's why the Tea Party freshmen are raising such hell. Regardless if we believe in their agenda, we have to recognize that (so far) they're keeping the pledges (without compromise) that they made while campaigning. And yes...they had corporate backing, too. Apparently, the middle class in their districts had the same concerns as the big businesses that funded them.
    Last edited by Ray F.; Jul 22, 2011 at 09:55 PM.