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  1. #31
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    First... There's no quota on talent, brother. Some people got it, some people don't. There's no magic number you have to hit to shape a great board... or glass a great board... or polish out a mirror finish. If you know what you're looking at, you can see quality work, whether it comes from a legit guru like Phillips, or out of somebody's garage.

    The REAL problem around here, IMHO, is that most people DON'T know what they're looking at, and that's WHY they feel the need to get a board from a major label.

    For me, personally, it's all about doing it yourself. I'd rather guys go out and build their own boards than buy them at all... from anybody. I don't think anybody here is "parading around like a guru." I think for the most part people are here to share information and maybe open somebody's mind to some different options. There's no mystery in building a great board. Just knowledge and skill.

  2. #32
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    Quote Originally Posted by KelliSlhater View Post
    Yup 2,000 give or take. You can't tell me that the shapers with only a couple hundred boards under their belts can shape a board as good if not better than someone else. The problem with this area is, is that everyone that buy a planer and 20 blanks thinks they need to create a website offering custom boards. All I am is saying is that for a person to spend $450 to $500 on a board when they can easily get one shaped from someone who really knows what they are doing is kind of stupid. In Cali there are dozens of shapers who don't have websites, who don't talk every 5 secs about custom boards, and just do it. Its great that guys want to make boards, but all i am is saying is don't parade around as this shaping guru and shooting down name brand shapers who can put you in your place real quick. Just make the boards, shut up, and let people come to you. Thats all.
    I dont see any Shapers on this site talking about all the custom boards they make . I only see the happy people that bought them here. It also not how many boards a shaper has made either .

    A good shaper has ability to talk to the customer and take what they want and convert it into Foam and glass. It not just dimensions but they have to balance what the customer wants cause of what they think they now and what type of wave the board will be used and find a happy medium. If a board dont work the shaper get the blame even if its what the customer ordered. So when a shaper can take that and mix it to what will work best for the surfer then they are at the top of there game

  3. #33
    Quote Originally Posted by KelliSlhater View Post
    Seems that there has been a lot of bs on here about local shapers. If somebody wants a surfboard made by someone in there town then fine. But whats annoying is people who haven't shaped even 200 board saying that they make custom surfboards. Now it may be custom in the sense that a guy can say i want a 5'10" fish and you make them a fish with some custom art. But to me and you can ask any of the top "shapers", most agree that you can't call yourself a shaper until 2,000 boards. To know how to tailor rocker, foil, fin placement, concave, etc. to a riders needs is something that you can only develop by shaping that many boards. So that being said buy boards from the local guys if you are stoked and they are stoked then there's no problem. But to pay 450 for a board that is maybe #50 from the guy is a little crazy, compensate the price for what they are getting is all.
    i dont think anyone meant to pick any random person with a shed and some tools. most areas have the local go to guy. ashton in md,busbey in hatteras,yinger and fernandez in their neck of the woods,etc. it does take time to get it wired but theres no set number,besides, you dont think merrick or biolos or other major label guys actually touch every board do you?

  4. #34
    I hope I'm not one of the local shapers you were refering to. If I am Corky Carroll would disagree with you

  5. #35
    I totally understand what you guys are saying. I think that building your own board is amazing, its the labor of love. The point i am trying to make is that for most people buying a board off the rack that has been tested a 1000 times over across the world is better than taking a chance on a local surfboard. Brian Wynn makes great surfboards and he has great surfers testing his boards for feedback, but he is on a different level than someone who has been shaping boards for a couple of years. I just don't see the point of someone paying $500 for a local made board, when for $50 more they can get a Sharpeye, Xanadu, WRV, etc. that is rider proven. Believe it or not there are a lot of gullible people out here and a lot of them read this forum. I am just offering a different perspective to make sure they don't make the wrong decision.

  6. #36
    Wasn't referring to anyone in particular. You make some nice boards and probably make a lot of people stoked which is sick! More of what i am referring too is the guys whom say they will make you custom boards and when you check out the boards on the website, the damn things look asymmetrical without them even trying.

  7. #37
    thats the local eccentric not the area go to guy. theyre the go to guy cuz theyre proven on a local level. i get your point too but you can tell right away which is which. everyones a local somewhere.
    Last edited by ripturbo; Jul 25, 2011 at 02:38 AM.

  8. #38
    Quote Originally Posted by KelliSlhater View Post
    Seems that there has been a lot of bs on here about local shapers. If somebody wants a surfboard made by someone in there town then fine. But whats annoying is people who haven't shaped even 200 board saying that they make custom surfboards. Now it may be custom in the sense that a guy can say i want a 5'10" fish and you make them a fish with some custom art. But to me and you can ask any of the top "shapers", most agree that you can't call yourself a shaper until 2,000 boards. To know how to tailor rocker, foil, fin placement, concave, etc. to a riders needs is something that you can only develop by shaping that many boards. So that being said buy boards from the local guys if you are stoked and they are stoked then there's no problem. But to pay 450 for a board that is maybe #50 from the guy is a little crazy, compensate the price for what they are getting is all.
    Paging mgarbutt, paging mgarbutt!

    Mr. KelliSlhater was wetting his pants over the Rocket you were selling on another post. Assuming it's one of your shapes I hope you're over the 2000 mark or how dare he even consider laying his eyes on it? Oh the horror!

    Hey KelliSlhater, the ...Lost shaping machine must be a 'master shaper' since it's most likely done more than 10,000 boards.

    Educate me you say? Come to Greenlight and we'll help enlighten you... that's what we do.

    +1 for Mahady. No shame in giving props to my man, that's what these forums are all about right?

    Like Big Daddy Mahady said, if you want a custom board there do your research and pick whoever you feel will help you be a better surfer (aka have more fun in the water)

    ~Brian
    www.greenlightsurfsupply.com
    Shape Your Surfing Experience

  9. #39
    Mr. Mahady,

    I have a feeling your friend KelliSlhater has no clue who Corky Carroll is since he has proven pretty under-educated on surfing in general so there's the Wikilink for his reference.

    ~Brian
    www.greenlightsurfsupply.com
    Shaper Your Surfing Experience

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    I'm kinda with KelliSlhater on this. I think everyone knows that someone with less than 2000 boards is capable of shaping a great board. The point is that someone with a couple of years under his belt could not possibly be a master at the craft of making a surfboard. To list yourself as a local shaper capable of taking feedback from a customer and making a magic board is BS. And to sucker some poor sole into paying $450 for one is a crime. I have shaped about 8 boards and let me tell you they all work, even the first horid one. But there is no way I could repeat one or even come close to what someone wants with a custom. There is so much that goes into making a surfboard I can't imagine how you could master the skills so fast. I would think with dedication I could consitently shape a good board 50 boards in the future but would still lack the skill to custom tweak a board for local conditions. Don't get me wrong I'm into American made boards but don't think I have to buy it local to get a great board that will work well in our waves . I don't give a crap if it is a proven design that was rough shaped by a machine as long as it works. I'm not going to close with a qualifying remark giving props to my local shapers, it's great they do what they do but everyone should be able to buy what they want without fear of the local shaper police silencing them for buying the board that inspires. Also not sure I get the negative vibe against KelliSlhater for making a valid point.
    Last edited by Zippy; Jul 25, 2011 at 04:33 AM.