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  1. #21
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    originality is key in my opinion. I am interested when I see something different. Gets old watching stuff that has already been done a hundred times.

    new angles, new locations, new plot concepts, etc...

  2. #22
    Quote Originally Posted by slopman View Post
    PUNK ROCK SOUNDTRACKS!!!
    this and one thing I'll vent about is the newer movies that edit the wave down to just one turn or air- I much prefer when they show the guys paddling for position and popping up and continues until they kick out.

    If you "can't stand" the scenes where they are prepping for the swell- tracking it and getting there- that's half the fun of surfing. Are you saying you can't stand the "Drive Thru" series?

    "making movies about the guy"? IMO some of the best surf flicks are just about one guy: from old school "Searching for TC" or "the Occumentary" to newer greats like "WanderJahr (margo)" or "ARC (T. Knox)" that's what makes for a human interest angle.

    Of course for a pre-surf pump up I prefer something more like "Punk and Disorderly" or "The Kill" series. And please just stop trending towards the artsy fartsy BS with queers like Alex Knost.
    Last edited by Bronze Whaler; Mar 22, 2012 at 01:50 PM.

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    "Sipping Jetstreams" Taylor Steele...watch and learn

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    yes taylor steele makes the best surf films. Why?

    VERY LITTLE DIALOGUE. I am so sick of hearing "bro" interviews or watching hawaiins talk about respect and pecking order. Also, I don't care about the 60's. I mean, I do, but I don't need 600 long drawn out documentaries about it. We get it... surfing lost it's soul, or whatever.

    I dont want to see Rob machado pretend to be wandering alone when there is a 15 man film crew following him down the road everywhere he goes. Quit being a little emo Biatch and surf with that god given talent! The best clip of his surfing that I have ever seen is in Castles in the Sky, and that's because they didn't let him speak. You can tell that he creeps out the locals in that one scene... if you know what I'm talking about.

    Music is critical. Taylor steele uses b-sides and less popular music (most of the time). I have found myself on more than one occassion turning on one of his movies just for the soundtrack.

    THEY ARE NOT RIDDLED WITH SPONSORS AND PLUG_INS. I get so sick of watching these companies flaunt their logo and $ everywhere instead of showing ... surfing

    This got me thinking about surfer magazines again too... WTF!?! $6 an issue for something that is 80% ads and 20% content? F*ck that i'll read Dane's blog again.
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  5. #25
    Quote Originally Posted by Sniffer View Post
    "Sipping Jetstreams" Taylor Steele...watch and learn
    Worst movie ever. all content, no surf.
    Got it as a present, watched it once, collects dust.

    One movie I tend to watch on the reg.......Dark Fall. booyah. Punk, metal, rap.....the whole gammit. Only slow mo sections are the heaving winter barrel sections in certain clips. The editing is great, surfing is top notch and it wasnt done with a billion $$$$ budget.

    Billabong Trilogy- Parko, Andy, Taj. Awesome surfing, awesome angles and great soundtrack. No BS.

  6. #26
    Quote Originally Posted by Bronze Whaler View Post
    this and one thing I'll vent about is the newer movies that edit the wave down to just one turn or air- I much prefer when they show the guys paddling for position and popping up and continues until they kick out.

    If you "can't stand" the scenes where they are prepping for the swell- tracking it and getting there- that's half the fun of surfing. Are you saying you can't stand the "Drive Thru" series?

    "making movies about the guy"? IMO some of the best surf flicks are just about one guy: from old school "Searching for TC" or "the Occumentary" to newer greats like "WanderJahr (margo)" or "ARC (T. Knox)" that's what makes for a human interest angle.

    Of course for a pre-surf pump up I prefer something more like "Punk and Disorderly" or "The Kill" series. And please just stop trending towards the artsy fartsy BS with queers like Alex Knost.
    I agree with you that it's annoying when they edit a wave down to just one portion of it. I also agree that the tracking of the swell/getting to the break portion of films can be pretty well-done in some cases.

    However, I'd submit that the "human interest angle" you mentioned varies greatly from human-to-human -- you and I are obviously interested in different content, for example.

    Lastly, is it necessary to call Alex Knost a homosexual because he's in a handful of films that are shot, edited, produced, and presented better than 90% of other surf films? "Artsy fartsy" is a term that's usually thrown around by people who don't know when they're looking at something that's done well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kielsun View Post
    Lastly, is it necessary to call Alex Knost a homosexual because he's in a handful of films that are shot, edited, produced, and presented better than 90% of other surf films? "Artsy fartsy" is a term that's usually thrown around by people who don't know when they're looking at something that's done well.
    Probably not necessary, but quite possibly accurate.

    Art is in the eye of the beholder. People who "dont know when they're looking at something is done well" just dont like it. They arent wrong just because some other art critic likes it.

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    If I'm looking at a nordic track or a stationary bike (whatever it was) on top of surfboard- is it "done well" or is it crap? I'm going with the latter.

  9. #29
    Quote Originally Posted by scotty View Post
    Probably not necessary, but quite possibly accurate.

    Art is in the eye of the beholder. People who "dont know when they're looking at something is done well" just dont like it. They arent wrong just because some other art critic likes it.
    I agree with you that a person isn't "wrong" if they dislike something that's liked by an art critic. However, I didn't mention art critics in my post and I stand by my opinion that "artsy fartsy" is a term that is usually (read: not always) thrown around by people who don't know when they're looking at something that's done well.

    Perhaps Bronzewhaler is in the minority group, though. He's one of those people who understand, appreciate, and are interested in art and films but still feel the need to call someone a homosexual because of how he chooses to express himself. Yeah, that must be it.
    Last edited by kielsun; Mar 22, 2012 at 03:36 PM.

  10. #30
    Quote Originally Posted by Bronze Whaler View Post
    If I'm looking at a nordic track or a stationary bike (whatever it was) on top of surfboard- is it "done well" or is it crap? I'm going with the latter.
    Ha! Haven't seen that one! Sounds crappy to me, too.

    But I don't think one segment in one film takes away from Knost's surfing in general or turns every other film that he's in into crap. Nor do I think it makes him a homosexual.