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    global warming is changing the weather

    Global warming is effecting us the question is how much of it is due to our impact which with all the billions of cars zooming around all day something has to give. Anyway, if it's effects include all these south winds I hate it. A perfetcly good northeast swell is going to get shredded by the south wind tommorrow, whatever happened to west after a storm? I'm only 21 but I sound old when I say back in my day there'd be a noreaster for 2-3 days then it'd go west and all the breaks in our are would be sick with a NORTHEAST swell not SE, or SE and NE, just NE! I mean come on the water is piss right now, novemeber starts next week! Not that I mind that but this sucks I'm going out in the chop and slop today just so I can go left. Sorry just checked the forecast and was like WTF but yes the south swell last saturday was awesome because it was one swell with a west wind.

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    Check out the other similar threads on this topic in this forum - a bunch of people have been bringing this up. Do a forum search for "global warming" or the like (click on search on the top forum nav bar).

    We are having an above average temperature month for October, but climatologically speaking you don't want to base one swell event or one month of temperatures on a large scale phenomenon like global warming. But, rather you look at long term trends in years, decades, and longer.

    I've been forecasting surf for about 10 years now and there is absolutely nothing abnormal about the current swell we are seeing. Check out the swellinfo pressure maps. We have a high pressure hovered over the northeast, which is combining with a small surface low off the southeast coast to create a substantial NE pressure gradient. A storm system is anticipated to develop north of the Gulf of the Mexico and push its way towards the Northeast through the weekend. This will allow winds to shift southerly and potentially allow for an offshore shift as the system moves off the coast (pending on track of the low).
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    According to the weather channel this is an el nino year. Which mean more storms in the Pacific, less in the Atlantic, and warmer temps. Which we have had, not that it has anything to do with this storm system, but it has effected the amount of swell we've had this year. So its most likely not global warming thats making our waves suck.

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    just keep in mind that the global climate is all connected.

    So what we call "teleconnections", such as El Nino is of course going to be impacted by a global warming influence. I dont know enough about the direct correlation tho... but I believe the frequency of el nino events have increased in the recent decade or two ...

    Have you heard of the so called butterfly effect?
    So, where a small change in an initial condition, will impact the whole system. A butterfly flapping its wings, could change the outcome of a hurricane event??

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    I deal with PhD geologists on a daily basis and when I ask them about global warming they laugh and tell me that anyone who knows anything about the earth knows that global warming is not even a topic of discussion.

    Plus it is not the scapegoat for why the wind is going to go south after this NorEaster blows through.

    I paddled out last night North end Spring Lake and had some fun in the chop. A lot of speed and some good size. Of course I'd rather have spitting barrels, but it's jerZ, I'm happy anytime it isn't ankle high...

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    Quote Originally Posted by wallysurfr View Post
    I deal with PhD geologists on a daily basis and when I ask them about global warming they laugh and tell me that anyone who knows anything about the earth knows that global warming is not even a topic of discussion.
    I dont believe this...

    but, then again geologists are a unique bunch of creatures, generally focused more on the past then the future...

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    http://www.canadafreepress.com/2006/harris061206.htm

    http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.p...articleId=5086

    There's a couple articles

    they basically say that CO2 is not causing global warming but our warming trends are caused by the sun. Other planets in our solar system are seeing the same changes. Not trying to spark any kind of controversy but I'd believe a scientist over a politician anyday.

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    agreed

    Im just being fecisious(sp?) with the global warming affecting us in this particual year but the south wind and swell filtering into every chance we get to have a NE swell alone is pissing me off. As far as global warming being enhanced by cars and stuff whats the difference what about all the crap thats coming out of the exhaust pipes thats directly measurable and stopping that is good anyway. Remeber Long Island was formed by a glacier well at least the geoligists say so so they must believe in global warming cuz im, surfing in 68 degree water today.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swellinfo View Post
    I dont believe this...

    but, then again geologists are a unique bunch of creatures, generally focused more on the past then the future...
    I believe it and have run into the same thing....geologists typically think in terms of climatological trends lasting tens of thousands of years or more....

    Ice ages
    geological epochs
    climate changes brought on by meteors spewing tons of dust in to the air

    They look at a few decades worth of data showing human induced CO2 increases and possible temperature increases and regard it as a tiny blip (noise) in a much larger trend of massive warming and hundreds of feet of sea level rise since the end of the last ice age.

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    well lets not forget about global cooling. while global warming may be happening, we are also loosing the amount of sunlight we get each year, as a result of all the pollution were putting up there

    and for pollution from cars, i heard once that eating one less hamburger a week will have a much greater effect on helping the environment then not driving, because of the mass quantity of livestock that give off gas