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  1. #11
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    guess they changed it since i lost interest after they were bought by a snowboard company.sorry

  2. #12
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    Kicking a hotcoat too fast WILL make PE resin brittle, and WILL reveal itself as what I refer to as "flex cracks." While overflexing will cause stress cracks across the stringer, from rail to rail, on just about any standard construction board, "flex cracks" (not an industry terms, btw... just something I've seen before, and don't know what to call it) can be found running only from rail to stringer, and not across the stringer. The only explanation I can think of is a hotcoat with too much cat. Because foam flexes more than wood because of the relative strengths of the two materials, and the rail flexes less than flat foam inside the rail because of it's shape, the foam between the rail and the stringer flexes most, particularly under torsional load, like on a turn. Greenlight's a mechanical engineer, so maybe he can explain better...

    Whether CI does or does not send factory seconds to the East Coast I don't know. But those in the industry know more than me about that sort of thing.
    Last edited by LBCrew; Sep 15, 2011 at 12:15 AM.

  3. #13
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    It's the glass job. I have a 5'8 POD with the UL glass, same results. My locally shaped has a better glass job and is flawless. Nothing you can do about it, just keep an eye on it. If you are into saving money, which it appears you are, find a local guy and bring the CI model you want him to replicate. Guaranteed you'll pay $300+ less, and you'll be able to enjoy the board a lot longer.

  4. #14
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    Quote Originally Posted by LBCrew View Post
    Whether CI does or does not send factory seconds to the East Coast I don't know. But those in the industry know more than me about that sort of thing.
    you're right...& they don't. it would be a horribly stupid business decision. the days of treating the east coast like a red-headed step-child are over. the west coasters may not respect us, but they sure as **** recognize us as a legitimate market. a company as large as CI can't afford to send inferior products to one of their major markets. CI also has one of the most strict quality control standards in the industry. they are not made in china (the anacapas were made in thailand, but that comany was shut down in 2007 or 2008), they are made in california.

    i'll climb down from my CI defense now...

  5. #15
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    I've had the same CI Black Beauty for at least 6 years and no issues besides the standard pressure dings. Of course for the first 4 1/2 it was just a seldom used step up & travel board but the last year year and a half it has been rode regularly in waves known for PU breaking boards. Then again I watched a friend's Merrick proton buckle on a two foot day. 3rd or 4th session on the board... just a few waves in... not getting too radical and waves not throwing that hard. Buckle. Weird. Nothing that day surf or surfing would suggest a buckled board.

  6. #16
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    Thanks for all the info everyone.

    I would have def. went to a local shapper but im not sure where they at (Im in ocean/monmouth cty).

    Yes - the board is fantasic in the water, and it is made with the light weight construction which I figured had something to do with it and if thats the case I would still rather have less glass and a lighter board.

  7. #17
    Quote Originally Posted by Feesh View Post
    Thanks for the reply, its a good thing it was $200 off. Its funny I have a canyon fish that has never had an issue and cost $300 less. I guess popouts arent that bad after all.
    yes they are. for many reasons. light performance boards are not meant to last but to be ridden and ridden hard.ride er til she dies.

  8. #18
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    There are several local shapers in Monmouth/Ocean County. If you like the feel of a lightweight, high performance board, try EPS/Epoxy... about as light, yet strong, as you can get with standard construction. Check out some of the shapes on the Greenlight website to get an idea of what's available in terms of materials and custom shapes. http://greenlightsurfsupply.com/gree...fboards-2.aspx

  9. #19
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    [QUOTE=beachbreak;106458]and someone i know who would know says some al merricks are now from china,too.

    Where do you guys get this info?

  10. #20
    Quote Originally Posted by LBCrew View Post
    "stress cracks" can be found running only from rail to stringer, and not across the stringer.
    Really appreciate and respect you LBC, but fixed your post and as well they can be found across the stringer as well. Usually I find them on lb's or on the last 6" of a shortboard after their ridden into the sand or pushed with a similar amount of force.