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    mini-simmons

    they look like lots of fun for summer mush, so i've been checking them out - i went into a local surf shop (Hot Wax in Wilmington) to look for one and was surprised that the staff had absolutely no idea what i was talking about (staff: "no, we don't carry that brand"...me:"well, actually it's a shape"...staff: "huh?").

    maybe I just went to the wrong shop or maybe the mini-Simmons is more of a West coast phenomenon? anyway, anybody own one? know any local shapers who have experience making them?

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    Well, the problem with the simmons inspired boards is that you see a lot of them around-BUT, majority of them do not have the design principles that need to be there to really make them work. There are some shapers in the area that make them, but if I were you, I would go directly to Greg Eavey. He has been doing displacement hull boards for a good while and he makes a good 'mini simmons.' He kind of blends the original designs with some catered to our waves a bit more. Talk to Greg though if you are really thinking about one. Here are a few cool links that make for good reading on these boards....

    http://press.hydrodynamica.com/2008/tjsvol17no6/

    Here is one about Bob Simmons. This one is really cool and gives some good history on Simmons:

    http://files.legendarysurfers.com/su...nds/ls15.shtml
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    Quote Originally Posted by respecttheocean View Post
    Well, the problem with the simmons inspired boards is that you see a lot of them around-BUT, majority of them do not have the design principles that need to be there to really make them work.
    yup, i wondered about that...i know a couple of first-class shapers here, but i don't want to be the first
    person they make one for, with all due respect to their abilities.

    your links are a little whacked, but that's ok coz i've seen most of that stuff on Bob Simmons - the original Surf Nerd :-) - great reads (in fact, that whole legendarysurfers.com site is fascinating - i'm a big Tom Blake fan, but that's a subject for another thread). anyway, thanks for the input - i'll check Greg out when i'm a little closer to making a decision.

    here's another cool Bob Simmons link - video from an aerospace industry retrospective commemorating links between pioneer surfers and the aerospace industry: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J-JHA...layer_embedded

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    I will check out that link to the video. Thanks. Yeah, the legendarysurfers.com site is rad and interesting to read. The other site I was trying to post was http://hydrodynamica.com/. It's a good read as well.

    In a nutshell, as written on hydrodynamica.com: "By looking into the origin and influence of Simmons’ 1940s surfboard designs, which he called ‘hydrodynamic planing hulls’, we discover a narrative thread that connects Western science, design, and popular culture to the centuries old finless planing boards of Hawaii and Oceana. Through Simmons, the compelling story of the Planing Totem, the ancient and deceptively simple root of modern board riding, is revealed."

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    Quote Originally Posted by respecttheocean View Post
    I will check out that link to the video. Thanks. Yeah, the legendarysurfers.com site is rad and interesting to read. The other site I was trying to post was http://hydrodynamica.com/. It's a good read as well.

    In a nutshell, as written on hydrodynamica.com: "By looking into the origin and influence of Simmons’ 1940s surfboard designs, which he called ‘hydrodynamic planing hulls’, we discover a narrative thread that connects Western science, design, and popular culture to the centuries old finless planing boards of Hawaii and Oceana. Through Simmons, the compelling story of the Planing Totem, the ancient and deceptively simple root of modern board riding, is revealed."
    wow, very nice - great link, thanks! funny that what is really old becomes new again, huh?

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    i've been interested in these boards for a while now myself. I really like the similarities they seem to share with a longboard and how they're surfed.

    What design principles are different between the west coast and east coast? From everything i've heard about them they perform well in small sloppy waves. Maybe it's a semantics thing and the west coast folks don't know the east coast definition of "small sloppy waves".

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    I got one made by spirare surfboards. It actually works better in surf waist high or better. I am 6'3 225 and ride a 6x23x3 that's a sanded finish quad

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    If anyone wants to check out a real simmons board when in OCMD, go to Chauncey's north shop and look in board room for oldest board there- its awesome! spoon nose- hull through the whole board- and I think I heard it was one of first fiberglass boards- only thing that caught me was that it was single fin and i thought all simmons were twinies..... AWESOME thought so go peep it out- anyho I am shaping a pine chambered hollow wooden 5'3x22.5x2.75 simmons now- pretty fun learning as I go - Ive been lo0oking at lots of them for a while and cant wait to ride one- have a god damned great day everyone

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    Quote Originally Posted by hanna View Post
    they look like lots of fun for summer mush, so i've been checking them out - i went into a local surf shop (Hot Wax in Wilmington) to look for one and was surprised that the staff had absolutely no idea what i was talking about (staff: "no, we don't carry that brand"...me:"well, actually it's a shape"...staff: "huh?").

    maybe I just went to the wrong shop or maybe the mini-Simmons is more of a West coast phenomenon? anyway, anybody own one? know any local shapers who have experience making them?
    Actually one of my buddies shaped his own from an old longboard and he loves it. I see him in the water a lot more. He takes that thing out from ankle to overhead. He's a bigger dude to so it floats him really nice. Check it out, https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?...1176006&type=3

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    mini-simmons

    my husband's been making these boards for about three years now--he loves riding 'em so he started shaping 'em. he's 6'0 180 lbs and rides a 5'2 about 23 inches wide i think--he's had a couple on craigslist for sale - cheap for the time he puts in - he shapes and glasses himself. he also has one at south end surf shop for sale around 300 i think?
    has a blog roostershack.blogspot.com
    btw--all you gotta do is watch him surf - he always has a sh%t eatin grin on his face and he kills it

    he has no idea i've posted this
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