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  1. #11
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    global warming could be my growth spurt!

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    re-precautions ... ya know, like when someone does something and they get warned as a result. its a word.

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    Granted, the pollution from humans has affected the Earth, but the idea that we are the main cause behind the polar ice caps melting is ridiculous. I'm sure it has nothing to do with the fact that the sun gets closer to the Earth every year.

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    the point I was trying to make, admin, was that there is a difference between global warming and climate change.

    This is independent of whether or not you believe something is happening, or not.

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    Guys, c'mon, the question of whether or not industrial civilization has warmed the climate is pretty much settled. It has, and continues to do so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by joenottoast View Post
    Maybe I the scotch, but I found this hilarious!

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    Quote Originally Posted by HaoleNJ View Post
    the point I was trying to make, admin, was that there is a difference between global warming and climate change.

    This is independent of whether or not you believe something is happening, or not.
    Of course there is... I studied Climatology in grad school.

    Both human induced climate change and natural climate variability occur at the same time. The 6+ billion year old earth has gone through many minor and major climate changes throughout its lifespan.

    Using the wonderful world of science and statistics, it is quite easy to analyze both observational and experimental modeled data to separate the two influences.

    The ecosystem is fragile. To give you a non-CO2 induced micro-scale example that I think most can relate to. Have you ever heard of the urban heat island, where cities are warmer then the nearby rural areas? The TV weather mean will always point out differences in temperature in the cities and around the cities. Taking out fields and trees, and putting in paved roads and skyscrapers have a huge influence on the local environment and climate. So much of the ecosystem gets changed by these behaviors. Solar radiation is absorbed/reflected differently, less/more CO2/O2 is taken in/given out, water runs off instead of being absorbed by the ground. I'm not saying cities are bad, my point is more of offering a easy to ignore influence that we humans have on our environment.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Swellinfo View Post
    Many, meaning a very small minority.

    Something along the line of 98% of climate scientists believe in human induced climate change.
    Where does it say 98% believe in HICC?

    Yeah, that's why one of the anti-global warming spokesman fronting a carbon based tax has a house 50ft from the beach in Florida (supposedly that's going to be underwater in 30 yrs due to climate change).

    Dis-information is everywhere and many Global Warming studies and think tanks are funded by Cap and Trade organizations that will be profiting from imposing taxes on all of us. When all is said and done, it's all about the $$$.

    I don't need some neck-bearded socialist college professor telling me what kind of car to drive because he's listening to a bunch of rich politicians telling him the sky is falling.