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    Quote Originally Posted by RedStripe75 View Post
    Just curious, but how did he react when you went off on him? Apologetic at all? Every time that **** happens to me, the dude just seems confused.
    he came up to me to apologize but i was pretty heated. he thought by apoligizing it would make it ok but it just doesn't. this thread is proving that getting hit by kayaks in the surf is more common than I thought.

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    Quote Originally Posted by somuchsurf View Post
    I am glad this came up... I was on the receiving end of the abuse the other day when i was out...I have been surfing for 8 years or so and have never dropped in on someone in a way that would seriously inhibit their line/wave (besides a couple times when I first started). Anyways, first wave of the day...maybe I was a little too amped or something but I dropped in a guy and didn't see him at all. I pulled up to get off the wave as fast as I could and he proceeded to blow by me and shove my board. Besides him pushing my board we did not touch at all. I said sorry thinking that it would be enough. But this a-hole just wouldn't stop berating me like i was a f'in three year old. I finally gave him the big F U and paddled off.

    I guess my point is maybe you should give people a chance, if it happens over and over then sure go for it, let the expletives fly, otherwise just let it go. That sh*t is going to happen whether you flip out or not.
    i don't thing its the same thing. you dropped in, saw the wave wasn't yours and got off. Not something you want to make a habit of but happens and you did the right thing becuase you had control.

    this guy had no control over this boat. everytime i've seen these things in the surf they hit someone.
    Listen i don't know you but i'd be willing to bet you would flip too. most of us would. but you're right it still going to happen.

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    I was paddling back out after a wave one time and got in another surfers way as he was about to pop up. Totally my fault even though I tried to get out of the way, some times you just cant. We both bumped off each other, no damage done though. As soon as we both surfaced and I could see him I sincerely apologized to him, he looked pissed at first but then he asked if I was okay (I was) and then we both just smiled/laughed and got back in the line up.

    Words spoken with mildness turns away rage, and sometimes you need to let things go...I would be upset if I got pummeled by a kayak too, but I bet if you didn't go off on him he would of made it his job to come over and try to make it right. Besides, that's all he can do anyway...nothings going change the fact he lost control. Then you could explain your concern for others and how its dangerous to not be in control to give him something to think about for the future and hopefully stop it from happening again... Glad you guys are okay though, that's all that really matters in the end anyway.

  4. #14
    Quote Originally Posted by havanasand View Post


    I understand you say you didn't see the guy and sh#t happens. But think about it. Do you pull out in front of oncoming traffic without looking to see what's headed your way or walk in front of someone jogging down the road, apologize, and expect no confrontation come from it? I know a lot of people do and that's why accidents happen.

    That guy could have been having a really bad day, fired from his job, wife cheated on him etc. When you drop in on someone (or run someone over with a kayak/SUP) you have to take all factors into consideration and weigh your options. It might work, you might get yelled at, or you might take a beating for it. I've witnessed all three.

    The surf industry/media has ruined our sport and lineups (sloppy beach-breaks to world class point breaks) are packed with people who want to partake in the fun. Lineups keep getting more crowded with your average joe who has little regard for anyone but himself and is willing to put others at risk because it just doesn't matter to him. I think that's what most people get irate about. Not at someone who simply makes a mistake.
    I hear what you are saying havanasand but judging from where you come from (PR,HI) crowding is probably a lot bigger problem and I am sure that things get tense from time to time. In this case there was all of 10 people out that day. And I far as I am concerned, I don't care if his wife cheated on him, or he lost his job, thats no excuse to act like a dbag to a stranger... thats the type of attitude that will get you in trouble.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peajay4060 View Post
    i don't thing its the same thing. you dropped in, saw the wave wasn't yours and got off. Not something you want to make a habit of but happens and you did the right thing becuase you had control.

    this guy had no control over this boat. everytime i've seen these things in the surf they hit someone.
    Listen i don't know you but i'd be willing to bet you would flip too. most of us would. but you're right it still going to happen.
    Yea thats true, I guess I don't know how I would react until it happens to me. I just hope I don't find out anytime soon!

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    Quote Originally Posted by somuchsurf View Post
    I hear what you are saying havanasand but judging from where you come from (PR,HI) crowding is probably a lot bigger problem and I am sure that things get tense from time to time. In this case there was all of 10 people out that day. And I far as I am concerned, I don't care if his wife cheated on him, or he lost his job, thats no excuse to act like a dbag to a stranger... thats the type of attitude that will get you in trouble.
    I live in Virginia Beach now. If the guy was congnizant of the fact that you didn't see him then he needed to be mature about the situation. I've actually been dropped in on more here than in HA or PR. I think most people know that if you are going to paddle out in the islands especially the NS then you have knowledge that the consequences of your actions could end up getting you into some serious trouble. Either by another surfer or hitting reef etc...The East Coast just seems to be getting more and more like a free for all because many people who surf here have no etiquitte, respect or are just plain oblivious to their surroundings. I was dropped in on by a guy last month (best swell of the year and my first wave) who said he was sorry (even though he knew I was going) so I let it go, no big deal. Paddled down the beach 30yrds and proceeded to boost my wave quota while the other 10 guys set within arms length of one another. I guess I should have told them that we weren't surfing a point break but I hate to dissapoint.

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    Everyone is making really good points. I've been thinking why this one incident is getting to me so much and your posts are hepling out.

    I've had my share of guys droping in on me, getting snaked, near misses of surfers in my path or I'm in theirs, and actual collisions. I once had an SUPer lose his board while he paddled over the wave I was riding and the board smacked into my thigh which left a dinner plate black and blue and i let that go with an apology. But I never got this mad before and I think I know why. it was always surfer hits surfer. this was boat hits surfer. it's like when two people bump into each other it's only a "hey excuse me" or maybe a "watch were you were going". when a car bumps into a person its a little more serious. Maybe comparing a kayak with a car is a little much but you get the point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by somuchsurf View Post
    I have been surfing for 8 years or so and have never dropped in on someone in a way that would seriously inhibit their line/wave (besides a couple times when I first started). Anyways, first wave of the day...maybe I was a little too amped or something but I dropped in a guy and didn't see him at all. I pulled up to get off the wave as fast as I could and he proceeded to blow by me and shove my board. Besides him pushing my board we did not touch at all.
    Just my opinion here...and i'm not condoning someone berating you like a three year old, but if you dropped in and were close enough for the surfer behind to push your rail, you did "inhibit their line/wave". Its no big deal, but dont kid yourself...if he shoved your board, his ride was affected.

  9. #19
    Thanks for the laughs guys! Surf kayaks need to stay WAY out of the lineup....

  10. #20
    Quote Originally Posted by Peajay4060 View Post
    he came up to me to apologize but i was pretty heated. he thought by apoligizing it would make it ok but it just doesn't. this thread is proving that getting hit by kayaks in the surf is more common than I thought.
    I'm sure it is really common, though I've been hit with SUPs more. Took one to the head in Brazil back in the spring.