It seems that "surf culture" is becoming more like "urban culture." In the Northeast, and in some places in California, modern surf culture and modern urban culture have a lot in common. It used to be that surf culture was totally unique, having it's own vernacular, attitude, appeal... Now it seems like surf culture shares a lot of it's language and lifestyle with urban culture.
It it just my perception, or is this reality?
If it is a reality, why has this happened?
Is it a good thing or a bad thing?
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Thread: What is modern Surf Culture?
Dec 8, 2011, 11:06 AM #1
What is modern Surf Culture?
Dec 8, 2011, 01:09 PM #2
I think over the past 2 decades that mainstream culture has become urban culture and as we are all learning, for good or bad, surfing has gone mainstream,. Personally, I'm one of those redneck hillbilly types that has an Ipod full of Skynyrd, Toby Keith and the great Johnny Cash. I'm also an old head. I think most surfers under the age of 25 seem to be more immersed in the urban thing. Then again my two oldest sons are split- the 15 year old is a redneck like his dad, the 13 year old is more Urban- influenced. Good or bad?? I guess as long as you are having fun out there and are not an A$$hole in the lineup, then it's all good.
Dec 8, 2011, 03:22 PM #3
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Good points Earl. Have you noticed the amount of "surfers" in car commercials or just regular commercials? I mean it's a summer thing when they do that but still i noticed it a lot more this year than any other so far. Plus with a lot of the major clothing/accessories/gear shops, thy are pushing the "lifestyle" part more than the actual surf gear because its all about the $$$ nowadays. That's my guess to why it's blended. That and surfing used to be a counterculture thing. Now it's kinda just part of the norm in some places.
I read an article and heard a podcast about two older professional surfers talk about if surfing will become "uncool" in the next 20 years or so and if its just a fad with these young kids coming up. One guy said no it will never be uncool to surf but the other guy said he thought it would. His reasoning was that with all these kids doing airs with big sponsors and all that other crap will get bored of it because its so repetitive and it takes awhile before someone innovates something new so kids and other people will be turned off from it.
Honestly, I hope surfing becomes the uncool thing to do! Less people in lineups, kooks not trying to try brag about beings surfers when they can barely stand on a board, less mainstream people stereotyping surfers with lingo that kinda died down after the 90's and all that other stupid ****. Surfing has changed my life so it'll never be something "uncool". It's more than just something to do to me, it defines me and it gives some fresh perspective on things every time i paddle out. It's a passion for a lot of us so it will never die out but if it became less crowded and mainstream, that's fine with me.
AMEN MY BROTHER 757surfer!!!!! WHO CARES WHAT ANYONE THINKS ABOUT SURFING!!! THOSE OF US WHO UNDERSTAND LIFE DON'T CARE WETHER THINGS ARE COOL OR NOT. The stoke will never die...surfing is the best thing I've ever been addicted to. It has changed my life as well, I'm in better shape, been to more places, and have met some of the most amazing people in other countries because I surf. I wouldn't trade any surf experience for all the money or material things in the world. All one has to do is travel outside the states to understand how lucky we Americans really are. Enjoy the expericence wether its knee high or overhead...the ocean is my favorite playground!!!
Honestly, I think the mainstream's interest in surfing will prove to be a flash in the pan, just a fad. I don't think it will become uncool after the fad wears off, but less people will be drawn to it. I can't really say, but I imagine that the mid-late sixties were CRAZY in terms of mainstream/non-surfing types crowding the lineups in places like Southern California. Sure, the lineups weren't as crowded then in general, but I would guess that there were relatively just as many beginners paddling out and dressing "like surfers" at that time because of the popularity of the Beach Boys and other surf bands. Just a thought. Anybody have first-hand knowledge to confirm/deny this?
Dec 8, 2011, 06:24 PM #6
The good times for some and others who would appreciate this is observing father with his son or daughter in the line-up sharing the stoke as that was a rare sight of my youth, just say'n.
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Dec 8, 2011, 11:55 PM #7
You guys sound like a bunch of old men, which are tired of the kids next door playing on your grass lol. There has always been "trends" in the surf culture. I don't mind sharing some waves with guys sporting balding heads of hair, or mullets. No issues with guys jammin classic rock on the beach, as their longboard collects sun. These posts trip me out. The "modern" culture enjoys surfing just as much as any of you have. Honestly, I believe we enjoy it more. Consider the fact that the "modern" crowd does not need to get stoned on the beach, and actually trains outside of the water. It seems like the "old-school" crowd brings the bad "vibes" to the water. Let the endless summer go, and lighten up, please!
Dec 9, 2011, 04:28 AM #8
In my mind there are two surf cultures now. I don't think of this as necessarily a good or bad thing, just the way it is. You have the summer types who hang out and ride the slop on SUP and funboards. Maybe they own a 3/2 and enjoy the early/mid autumn days, but then they hang it up. They don't ditch work to go surf, and they have their "life priorities in order".
...and then there's the slightly unhinged of us who would do just about anything to get shacked. We spend the cash on a 5/4/3 and full quiver, drive longer than a normal person would consider "reasonable", we ditch work, forgo life's luxuries and take comfort in the green room. There's a different culture associated with this group. It changes all the time, though few people would actually consider us "cool" other than each other.
It's funny how many women I've met over the years who responded with the "oh, you're a surfer" in that quasi-lustful tone that indicated approval of this sort of thing. Later, however, things ALWAYS changed. "You are ditching me AGAIN to go surf? Do you realize that there is something seriously wrong with choosing waves over sex? Do you really expect me to sit on the beach like a dog and watch you surf?"
I suppose to some extent the mainstream folks do a pretty good job of making us look a lot more appealing than we actually are. Much like Hollywood stardom, however, experience shows us that this false positive image doesn't really get you very far.
Crap it's late, I like this thread. Hopefully it keeps going...
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Dec 13, 2011, 11:01 PM #10Member
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I think I'm going to write about this for my research paper. How surf culture has changed overtime and how it has become more mainstream recently. Should be a good one