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  • OBAMA

    21 27.63%
  • GINGRICH

    4 5.26%
  • PAUL

    41 53.95%
  • ROMNEY

    7 9.21%
  • BACHMAN

    1 1.32%
  • PERRY

    1 1.32%
  • SANTORUM

    0 0%
  • HUNTSMAN

    1 1.32%
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  1. #31
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    Quote Originally Posted by Erock View Post
    You obviously haven't been paying attention. Obama has equalled or surpassed Bush in environmental deregulation (which is a complete non sequitur seeing that much "regulation" is actually just ideologically based *feel good* nonsense that is conjured, bred and passed with little introspect into the future unintended consequences of said regulations. See OBX National Parks service's record and the Magnuson Stevens Act {even thought that was signed by Bush but now progressed by leaps and bounds due to Obama's appointment of Jane Lubchenko to NOAA} as prime examples). Not to mention Obama's preference to giving NGO's more power to set rigid ultimatums in legislation with no real culpability or oversight.

    "The mess Bush left behind.": A complete hyperbole direct from the Democratic Kool Aid mill. Look, politics and recent American History DID NOT START WITH BUSH, contrary to general Dem belief. You need to go back to at least Carter to even begin to see the big picture of our economic problems of today.

    "...the mess he had to clean up and got blamed for." Umm, I do believe Obama will go into history as one of the most divisive and buck-passing president in our recent history. You can't go around making excuses left and right then turn around and take wholesale credit for something like getting Osama Bin Laden.

    There is nothing *fresh,* *successful,* or *changey* (or any other feel-good word the pr mill decides to ascribe to Obama) about Obama's approach. Most is just politics as usual, a lot of which is merely Chicago-style buddy-buddy cronyism (ie the second round of bailouts, push for "shovel ready" infrastructure projects and federal intervention into private enterprises like Boeing's decision to expand into South Carolina getting shot down).

    I'm not saying any of the Repub. candidates necessarily offer a stark contrast (except maybe Paul) to American politics-as-usual. But if you truly believe that Obama has been and will continue to be a "good" President, I have this new color of lipstick you can try out on that pig of yours.

    ~ The post you are replying to was a joke. You make some great points and your post was well written. The most well written and thought provoking I have read on here so far.
    Last edited by respecttheocean; Dec 21, 2011 at 11:07 PM.

  2. #32
    all of them except for paul are a HUGE joke. obama, bachmann, romney, and hunstmann being the biggest.

    i haven't went through this thread cause last time we read it almost 40% of people said they were voting obama, but out of over a hundred replies only 4 of those people said why they were voting obama. 3 of them said cause he wasn't as bad as the gop guys. one of them are old friend yankee picked apart anyone who said anything bad about obama.


    obama is a joke. same foreign policy as bush who everyone including myself couldn't stand. same fiscal policy only 4x worse. including bailouts. took the bush mess, and metastasized it. do you like HIGH taxes? do you like your dollar DEVALUED? do you like all the endless wars we've been in for 10+ years? obama has strengthened all of bush's foreign policies, and sent troops to africa, libya, and other places we have no business being in. his foreign policy is a carbon copy of bush. don't give me that ''he finally ended the war in iraq'' crap either cause he didn't. that was a deadline set up by bush before he left office for december 2011. obama's deadlines were 16 months after taking office which would have been may 2010.

    paul isn't going anywhere though. other than being almost 80 years old which will go against him for most people both sides will sandstorm him. the right media will lambast him, and tout him as not being conservative enough because he wants to pull the troops out of the middle east, and he's for gay marriage, and it will just go on, and on. the left media will make up lies about him that he's racist, and blah blah blah blah, and hates immigrants, and it will never end.

    by the way i voted for obama, because i thought he was the lesser of two evils. not anymore. most of the gop front runners look like clowns actually they all do. i would rather not vote in this presidential election than vote for the joke that is obama again though.
    Last edited by eatswell; Dec 21, 2011 at 11:40 PM.

  3. #33
    Ok, this is my input, if anyone cares to read - specifically speaking about Ronald Paul

    Now, Paul puts me in a messy situation. Every time I read or watch him talk about his economic policies, I never disagree. He's right on with audits the fed, cutting a trillion right off the back, and taking down thousands of useless social "community organizations" that do just nothing. Hes right about that, and hes very knowledgable, very moral, and very true to his principals (as we all should). That being said, his foreign affairs and social issue viewpoints are very....wacked the hell out, to put in layman's terms. If you plan on voting for Ron please look into these issues. Now, personally I don't like us Americans being the policeman of the world per-say, especially in these super trying times, but I don't think we should be as isolate as Senator Paul takes he would like (ex. let iran feel free to test nuc's and all that dandy stuff) - yet I would prefer our pre-WWII stance, where we did fight when we were personally attacked. I propose a quasi monroe doctrine (james monroe's 1823 doctrine telling world powers that if they mess south or north of american boarders, the usa will call if an act of aggression and act in force back) for the middle east, focusing manly on nuclear activity and weaponization of bio warfare. I say let the barbarians bomb the tits out of each other. But, nuclear weapons is just such a threat to man kind, and Iranians just are flat out nuts and won't hesitate. Paul needs to realize the severity (I'm sure he does) but understand we can't live in a 100% libertarian world because flat out people in other parts of the world want every single American dead.

    I am between Romney and Paul as of now, leaning towards Romney because if he wins the nominee I am just certain he will beat Obama, and in the end of the day I just want him the hell away from office, maybe he can go back lobbyyin-- opps I mean being a community organizer in the most corrupt city in America, Chicago.

    Sucks that there isn't a solid candidate that all of the GOP, and people that are rational that see the horrendous state Obama has put us in, are really gun-hoe for.

  4. #34
    i think romney is obama only white, an older businessman, and an R in front of his name. maybe he's better than obama, but that doesn't say much.

    i used to say i was liberal, but after this guy i'm not. the democrats used to be an okay party, but now it's all marxists.

    i guess i'm liberal on some things like gay marriage, wars, etc. i myself don't think we need to be in the middle east anymore, and most conservative citizens agree. however most conservative politicians like john mccain, and pretty much everyone running minus paul think we should still be there, and don't address the wars over there as part of the debt crisis. in fact they seem to preach about it as if it's deficit neutral.

    obama is a horrible president. no better than bush from a liberal or conservative viewpoint. the only thing he's doing great by liberal standards even is distributing the wealth, and bowing to the saudi prince, and apologizing for america. yet everyone seems to turn the other cheek when you bring up the libya thing. obama is a fraud. why anyone would vote for him again unless they're receiving 125 weeks unemployment checks is beyond me. i'm baffled by it.

    i've got no problems with liberals, or marxists stating their opinions or socialists or whatever. i personally would HATE to see this country turn into that, but i respect the right everyone has to their own opinion. the minute any of the people who have those ideals tout obama as a good president is when i stop listening to them, and their opinion turns almost invalid to me.

    when bush was up for reelection in 04, and when he ran against gore in 2000 everyone said screw those guys vote for nader. in 08 all of the sudden everyone switches to fricken obama, and still wants to vote for him?

    obama is not a lesser of two evils either way. whether you are a liberal, or a conservative obama is a terrible joke of a president. from both viewpoints i can't see why anyone would support this clown.

    not saying every president hasn't done some bad things since i've been alive, but obama is the biggest joke. you knew what you were getting with carter, you knew what you were getting with nixon, ford, reagan, both bush's, and clinton. obama came in with a good guy attitude. said he would stop the wars in 16 months of office said he was close gtmo, said he would control the deficit, and would not get involved in any other conflicts. if a presidential candidate or any candidate running for office says they will do 15 things you can't trust them to do all of them, but can't you at least trust them to do maybe 8-10 of those things?
    Last edited by eatswell; Dec 22, 2011 at 08:07 AM.

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    Agreed

    Quote Originally Posted by LOSTsoul View Post
    If you want obama to lose then vote Romney. (my mind is telling me Romney)

    If you want the country to get back on track vote Paul. (my heart is with Paul)

    Although not a huge fan, I think Romney is the only chance to dethrone Obama. Romney's a moderate...appeals to both sides, especially independents.
    You hit the nail on the Head... I also like alot of Gingrich's ideas, but I'm not sure they won't smear him into the ground with dirty campaigning if he wins the Rep Nomination.

    Whoever is still voting for Obama... You really need to pull your head out of your a$$ understand some things about History, Big Government, Socialism and understand that he is about to drive this country into Socialism and more than likely a full-blown Economic and Financial System collapse. This guy is a joke of a President... Unfortunately, he was a joke of a Senator, but nobody wanted to heed the warnings...

    Too much Talk and not enough Walk!

  6. #36
    i can't believe 2 more people clicked obama since i last visited.

    if ron paul wasn't in this i BET obama would be in a good lead.

    why are you people who voted for obama so suckered? like i said last time we did this 40% of people said they would vote obama, but only 3 or 4 people out of 100 posted why they would, and 3 of those were ''obama isn't as big of an idiot as the other guys'' only one hopeless idiot defended obama, and called me, and everyone else an idiot who said the didn't like him, and also made up bs to make obama look good like ''unemployment is stabilized'' what a joker.

    i don't see paul going anywhere which is a shame. i'd hate to see this thread happen once paul is out. i bet obama gets over 50%

    i've made up my mind. i don't like romney, or gingrich, but it will come down to one of those two, and i'm gonna have to vote for them. stupid lefties will say i'm a ****phobe or hate poor people, because of it, but the truth is NO politician is gonna back EVERYTHING you do. those people are lying if they think obama is for EVERYTHING they are. he's clearly shown he is not.

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    Whoever is still voting for Obama... You really need to pull your head out of your a$$ understand some things about History, Big Government, Socialism and understand that he is about to drive this country into Socialism and more than likely a full-blown Economic and Financial System collapse. This guy is a joke of a President... Unfortunately, he was a joke of a Senator, but nobody wanted to heed the warnings...
    You cant seriously think Obama is a socialist. It seems all the people who say things like this do not actually know what socialism is or they would not call Obama a socialist. Furthermore if you are against socialism I hope you have never received a letter via the USPS. Also you could consider police and fire departments a form of socialism, are you against those as well. I imagine you listen the the media and regurgitate what you hear without even thinking about it, you just like the way it sounds.

    Personally i do not like any politician Obama included. Romney, Gingrich, Obama, or any of the other jokers, you will similar results from whoever gets elected. Moreover if you honestly believe the president and or government has the ability to create jobs in the private sector you are again watching too much TV and listening to too many talking heads. Think about things logically.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RID View Post
    You cant seriously think Obama is a socialist. It seems all the people who say things like this do not actually know what socialism is or they would not call Obama a socialist. Furthermore if you are against socialism I hope you have never received a letter via the USPS. Also you could consider police and fire departments a form of socialism, are you against those as well. I imagine you listen the the media and regurgitate what you hear without even thinking about it, you just like the way it sounds.

    Personally i do not like any politician Obama included. Romney, Gingrich, Obama, or any of the other jokers, you will similar results from whoever gets elected. Moreover if you honestly believe the president and or government has the ability to create jobs in the private sector you are again watching too much TV and listening to too many talking heads. Think about things logically.

    Socialism is a system of wealth redistribution. all the things you cite are simply government functions. Welfare (conveniently left out of your list) is a form of socialism. And yes, Obama is CLEARLY a socialist.

  9. #39
    I wish Hillary would've been president or even the next one. Shes tough and would handle all the bs going on in both sides of Congress better than any of these current nominees. O well! Paul is so right about so many things but doesnt have the power to make it. Maybe we should nominate one of our surfing legends!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alvin View Post
    I wish Hillary would've been president or even the next one. Shes tough and would handle all the bs going on in both sides of Congress better than any of these current nominees. O well! Paul is so right about so many things but doesnt have the power to make it. Maybe we should nominate one of our surfing legends!
    you are probably right. she definitely would have taken the message from the 2010 elections and changed her direction. Slick Willie gets a lot of credit for doing that in the 90s.