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  1. #41
    i'm all for conspiracy theories, and i have plenty, but i don't think this was an inside job. i think people read into it too much as far as the buildings imploding goes. though every point is valid.

    i think zach said something along the lines this is too big of something to cover up, and even al queda themselves would have exposed this.

    this is actually what i have thought all along.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MFitz73 View Post
    you're retarded. go make a new screen name and post like you're another supporter of the inside job theory.
    that was a great argument. thanks for enlightening us. def have had this username for a while now. just don't feel like posting on this site a lot when a lot the people who start threads are...well people as intelligent as you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Koki Barrels View Post
    That information is not viable, there is no form of fireproof steel. I saw a video in one of my engineering classes where the architect of the WTC buildings explained how the steel beams failed. The buildings were built with two large steel beams that extended from one side to the other, they basically held the building from falling in on itself...the heat was so extreme from all the jet fuel in the planes that it caused the beams to sag and in turn, caused the building to implode. As far as Building 7, like someone mentioned b4, without sprinkler systems working, they made the call to "pull it" because of structural integrity...after hours of burning the steel members were compromised and the building was deemed unsafe.

    I watched a video yesterday after i saw this thread about how on the morning of Sept. 11, 2001 NORAD was conducting a simulated terrorist attack on the WTC, pretty coincidental that we were attacked the same day they were training for the event. Here's the link....http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=em_Xy...eature=related

    in regards to the construct of the building and the fireproofing.

    "Richard Gage, a San Francisco Bay area based architect,[6] founded Architects & Engineers for 9/11 Truth in 2006.[7] Gage, who is a member of the American Institute of Architects,[2] has worked as an architect for twenty years and was involved in the construction of numerous fireproof steel-frame buildings.[8] He became convinced of the need to create an organization that brings together architects and engineers when he listened to an independent radio station interview with theologian David Ray Griffin.[7]
    The organization is collecting signatures for a petition that demands an independent investigation with subpoena power of the September 11 attacks, specifically the collapse of the World Trade Center towers and 7 WTC.[2][9] By March 2011, nearly 1,500 architectural and engineering professionals and 11,500 other supporters had signed the petition.[10][11][12] According to the organization, the identities and qualifications of all licensed architects and engineers whose names are being published on its website as well as those of other supporters who are listed separately are subjected to verification before acceptance.[13] Architects & Engineers for 9/11 Truth publishes The Blueprint, a periodic e-mail newsletter.[14]"

    done with this thread. i'm not trying to convince any one of what i have found through my research. only hope to provoke others to turn of fox news and start their own research. i'm very thankful for the guy starting the poll. it is always interesting to me to see what people think on this issue. i wont lie, i did think this forum would be a little more well versed on this topic and open minded to the fact that our presidents are merely puppets to a much bigger picture.

    if you don't believe why our government or the decision makers of this country should to be questioned. look up a little event called Bohemian Grove and PLEASE explain why events like these even need to take place.

  4. #44
    thank goodness you're done with this... now you can get on with your life like the rest of us.
    Off hand, Im not aware of any conspiracy theory that has ever disporved an explanation for something. Im sure you'll find something to post here.

    Also, I do not think that it is possible to create fireproof steel, alone. My understanding of steele object creation is that whatever temperature the steel was melted for creation is the temperature that it will fail at, unless covered with a fireproofing material.
    I've seen a bunch of wtc video explaining how the fireproofing material was blown off the steel when the planes impacted that area of the building. which would explain perfectly why those floors collapsed, setting off an downward failure event.

    I have never seen any video that even remotely indicates a conspiracy, in any believable manner.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MFitz73 View Post
    thank goodness you're done with this... now you can get on with your life like the rest of us.
    Off hand, Im not aware of any conspiracy theory that has ever disporved an explanation for something. Im sure you'll find something to post here.

    Also, I do not think that it is possible to create fireproof steel, alone. My understanding of steele object creation is that whatever temperature the steel was melted for creation is the temperature that it will fail at, unless covered with a fireproofing material.
    I've seen a bunch of wtc video explaining how the fireproofing material was blown off the steel when the planes impacted that area of the building. which would explain perfectly why those floors collapsed, setting off an downward failure event.

    I have never seen any video that even remotely indicates a conspiracy, in any believable manner.

    the act of conspiracy happens everyday with our government it is their job to plan things and form ideas. So why the instant those decisions are questioned do they become conspiracy theories?.. watergate was not a conspiracy theory because it was conspiracy that was simply brought into the light by many sources. however, i'm sure before being exposed to the main stream media. it too was labeled a conspiracy theory.

    so are there videos that show conspiracy theories are real? im not interested in conspiracy theories so i don't care.

    are there videos that show proof that our government is capable of lying to us about things they want to remain a secret? yes, countless man.

    didn't mean to stir up such rage in ya bro. life rolls on everyday for me. time for some waves I suggest you do the same. might cool ya off a bit. :-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by fishnotphish View Post
    the act of conspiracy happens everyday with our government it is their job to plan things and form ideas. So why the instant those decisions are questioned do they become conspiracy theories?.. watergate was not a conspiracy theory because it was conspiracy that was simply brought into the light by many sources. however, i'm sure before being exposed to the main stream media. it too was labeled a conspiracy theory.

    so are there videos that show conspiracy theories are real? im not interested in conspiracy theories so i don't care.

    are there videos that show proof that our government is capable of lying to us about things they want to remain a secret? yes, countless man.

    didn't mean to stir up such rage in ya bro. life rolls on everyday for me. time for some waves I suggest you do the same. might cool ya off a bit. :-)
    Im not fired up. I'm just sitting back and giving the rational side of things. People love a good who dun it... even when there is no mystery.

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    I don't know.

    But the military had the official call to scramble jets when the situation called for it. 1-2 weeks before 9-11, the Bush administration switched that responsibility to the office of the president. Interesting that you have planes flying into buildings, planes off-course but no fighters were ever scrambled.

    Black boxes. None of the planes' black boxes were recovered....Odd.

    Some people say that the towers were painted(inside-the offices and such) with an accelerant laced into the paint. The towers were painted prior to the event.

    They had warnings that dudes, of middle eastern decent were taking flying lessons and not concerned with the whole landing part.

    It wasn't just oil.......Bush sr and all his buddies' companies stood to make billions with the war that followed.

    You can put money on companies to fall on the stockmarket. Prior to 9/11 unusual amounts of money were put on the airlines and other companies that would be affected by the catastrophe.

    About the media not uncovering a plot. Again I'm not saying either way, but all the heads of every major media group are members of the Bilderberg Group.

    Bush Sr., who had much influence during that time, and all his corporate pals are evil.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SouthjettyBill View Post
    Bush Sr., who had much influence during that time, and all his corporate pals are evil.
    Bill,
    I have reason to believe you are not a moron. I just can't help but think you have another item you want to post but didn't.... and its about "The Jews."

    Come on man, you're smarter than that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Erock View Post
    Bill,
    I have reason to believe you are not a moron. I just can't help but think you have another item you want to post but didn't.... and its about "The Jews."

    Come on man, you're smarter than that.
    ABSOLUTELY NOT....I DO NOT THINK ISRAEL HAD ANYTHING TO DO WITH IT........

    I don't know if this comes from the media thing. I said The Bilderberg group controls the media not the Jews.

    I know you are an intellectual Erock, but you totally got that wrong.

    Actually why do you think that I would think that? I 100% do not think the jews had anything to do with it. Actually I don't know what to think about it all. I don't put it past the Bush admistration creating an attack in order to accomplish other things but......I don't know.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SouthjettyBill View Post
    ABSOLUTELY NOT....I DO NOT THINK ISRAEL HAD ANYTHING TO DO WITH IT........

    I don't know if this comes from the media thing. I said The Bilderberg group controls the media not the Jews.

    I know you are an intellectual Erock, but you totally got that wrong.

    Actually why do you think that I would think that? I 100% do not think the jews had anything to do with it. Actually I don't know what to think about it all. I don't put it past the Bush admistration creating an attack in order to accomplish other things but......I don't know.
    OK, maybe I got it wrong, but 90% of the time that's where this 9-11 conspiracy theory leads (and no, I'm not Jewish. I'm a straight up WASP. Not that it really matters...)