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  1. #41
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    Quote Originally Posted by DawnPatrolSUP View Post
    I'm simply talking about surfing the SUP in surf under head high, and peole want to freak out as if it's something they've never seen someone do successfully before.
    it really isn't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JTS View Post
    So after having my ups and downs with the Fish, mostly due to my shoulder issues and fitness level at the time, I decided to start looking at long boards

    You brought up the topic and asked the question.......

    Sounds to me like you started getting older/outta shape and just went the "upsize the board route" and then just kept going to a SUP (Wow a BIG board AND a paddle). My personal opinion is that a SUP is 1 blade away from a jet ski and is closer to kayaking than surfing. Long boards are one thing, SUPs are something totally different. I tend to see the guys ridings SUPs as guys who see them as a way to get more waves, not as a way to "rip harder". 1 of the biggest rushes I get in surfing is the take off, going from an almost stand still, lying prone, to standing upright and accelerating down the face, the steeper the better. This is completely missing in riding a SUP -you are standing up the whole time.


    I am always curious when people say "shoulder issues" did you get a diagnosis? Is it actually painful or does it get sore afterwards? Is it something that can be corrected through PT or surgery? A guy I have surfed with for the last 25 years had to have one of his repaired about 10 years ago due to repetitive motion stuff, surfing, playing 3rd base for years - SOB swims at least a mile a day and can paddle for hours - he is 51.

    Jim
    Unless you know my medical conditions then STFU. Yes i've had diagnosis, no i haven't gotten surgery, but yes i plan on it. It's also not just that simple, a lot of it is hereditary and chronic, so it's not going away EVER. I do the best I can with what i've got right now, I have expressed several times that I haven't given up surfing my other boards, because I haven't, I paddle out on them all the time, but I find nothing wrong with the SUP seeing as I catch waves safely and without getting in the way of others, which is obviously most of your concern. I've not once had an issue with anybody at the beach, as a matter of fact most people are curious and ask me questions and are very polite about it because they see me out there doing my thing. It's not for everybody I agree, but stop assuming it's just an easy way out, cause it's not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by njsurfer42 View Post
    it really isn't.
    That's weird because I figured this was rather common seeing as i'm not the greatest surfer in the world but I manage do very well out there on it. It's not my fault it's not common in other areas, but I'm not the only one at the breaks I surf, i'm one of several guys who surf SUP very well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by super fish View Post
    so basically you wrote all that to say that you discovered what it means to have a quiver? i surf longboards cause i like the way the ride, not that i think i am better than shortboarders...theyre just speed bumps.
    Yeah I suppose I did, that and to find out what everybody else thought and possibly open a few minds. I prefer surfing anything I can honestly, this isn't a crusade for SUP's, but i just thought it was interesting how many people are ignorant to them.

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    DawnPatrolSUP, I think you'll see that there are a lot of ego's in surfing, more then most sports/activities...
    I think this exists because there is a limited resource in waves, and thus a natural desire to create a hierarchy to consume these waves. Those on the bottom of the pecking order, are not given as much respect or rights to consume the valuable waves. I think, putting it in this perspective, makes sense to me anyway.

    If there were perfect waves on every beach, like there are basketball hoops in most neighborhoods, then I'm sure it wouldn't be as big of an issue. And, lets face it, on the East Coast, we have a limited number of days with those really valuable waves.

    And, I don't see the board type you ride as the main factor in the pecking order, but how well you ride it and how much the other's in the water offer respect to you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DawnPatrolSUP View Post
    That's weird because I figured this was rather common seeing as i'm not the greatest surfer in the world but I manage do very well out there on it. It's not my fault it's not common in other areas, but I'm not the only one at the breaks I surf, i'm one of several guys who surf SUP very well.
    well, you enjoy your plastic, chinese-made stand up crutch. shoulder issues or not, you would be a better surfer, & be less of a danger to others, on an appropriately sized longboard (as someone else said, 8'1" is not a longboard...it's a mid-length/"funboard").
    i'm 31, & my right should is messed up from a snowboarding accident in my teens. but by keeping (fairly) fit, stretching, & surfing regularly, it gives me no real problems. i really have to agree w/ the guy who said that it sounds like you're trying to justify using a SUP in smaller surf.
    but like i said, enjoy your pop-out kayak.

    edit: "ignorant" in this case is a matter of perspective. i've made my mind up that SUPs are a danger in the line-up, you won't persuade me otherwise. my opinion on this is based on the evidence i've gathered in line-ups up & down the east coast & around the world. that experience has shown me that, w/ VERY few exceptions, SUP=kook.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wave1rider65 View Post
    Technically......You still havent ridden a Longboard since they start at 9'......not 8'1. I personally dont care what board anyone rides as long as they act in a safe manner and dont become a wave hog when on larger boards.....I surf whatever board i need for conditions offered to me. It shouldnt matter what you ride as long as you're considerate to others in the water which always comes back to etiquette, that little thing so many refuse to adhere to. Everyone wants to have a good session but dont let yours ruin someone elses...........
    Thank you, I agree with this.

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    Based on your location, you actually surf some areas where SUPs can be a non-issue, but it is up to the user. Some of the beaches in the Mid-Atlantic area of this forum have restrictions on where you can and can't surf. I don't think rules like that exist when I surfed in Florida. So with your SUP, you don't have to be at the main peak, scratching and clawing for every bump with the hungry pack of prone guys.

    Don't take some of the criticism towards board choice too seriously. I can almost guarantee that 90% of the guys who post here and actually surf regularly own a variety of boards, and don't really have any animosity towards a particular board size, shape, etc.

    In other words, it's not really as bad as it sounds.

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    i wouldn't call it ignorance. its more negative opinions based on experiences. its been said many times in this thread that it is a very rare instance to see anybody riding an SUP even decently so of course the conclusion is that nobody rides them well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swellinfo View Post
    DawnPatrolSUP, I think you'll see that there are a lot of ego's in surfing, more then most sports/activities...
    I think this exists because there is a limited resource in waves, and thus a natural desire to create a hierarchy to consume these waves. Those on the bottom of the pecking order, are not given as much respect or rights to consume the valuable waves. I think, putting it in this perspective, makes sense to me anyway.

    If there were perfect waves on every beach, like there are basketball hoops in most neighborhoods, then I'm sure it wouldn't be as big of an issue. And, lets face it, on the East Coast, we have a limited number of days with those really valuable waves.

    And, I don't see the board type you ride as the main factor in the pecking order, but how well you ride it and how much the other's in the water offer respect to you.
    Great post, I couldn't agree with you more. The one thing I think people are missing here is i'm not stealing anybody's waves, or being reckless, or surfing at dangerous breaks, i'm surfing the E. Coast of Florida and the Gulf Coast of Florida for the most part, and i'm usually the 1st one in the water in the morning, and i surf for hours without getting tangled in line up. Usually i stay a bit off to the side of the line up, but sometimes i'll swing over for a quicky and then right back out, i'm not new to the line up and the attitudes and "egos" that go along with it. I just made this post because I don't see what difference it makes as longs as you can surf and be safe while doing it.

    Also, I think many missed the point that I have been trying to bounce back from shoulder issues and this has helped me with that and if people want to call it a "crutch" that's fine, but bottom line is it has helped me get back to where I was when i was catching waves on short boards, and I'm back to the point where i'm doing just that. I'm not "ripping" as many like to claim they do on here, but i'm definitely out there catching waves and having fun, which to me is all that matters.