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  1. Quote Originally Posted by aka pumpmaster View Post
    you bought into the hollywood portrayal of surfing. in reality its a dog eat dog scramble to getas many waves as each person can get. hopefully within the boundaries of etiquette.
    i hope u nvr bring that attitude to my home break costa rica.. but sure thats whats it all about mayhem and assholes.... thanks dude pura vida rock on

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    every break i've ever surfed in CR that had people out was like that. there was tons of respect too so snaking and the like were non-issues. BUT everyone knew you had to compete to get your share.

    and btw, the mayhem and a$$hole happens when etiquette is NOT followed. if those rules are observed, sessions with even the most aggro surfer are usually fine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aka pumpmaster View Post
    in reality its a dog eat dog scramble to getas many waves as each person can get. hopefully within the boundaries of etiquette.

    and btw, the mayhem and a$$hole happens when etiquette is NOT followed. if those rules are observed, sessions with even the most aggro surfer are usually fine.
    I agree with these statements wholeheartedly.

    Let me make an analogy to the sales business I'm in: if they hire some "green pea" what is my motivation to teach him all the subtleties I've acquired in 10+ years (unless they somehow ingratiate themself to me and even then it will inevitably burn me at least once)? I'm gonna give him pointers so later he can beat me out for a winner takes all bonus? Sure I'll help a little here and there for the good of the business and depending on if they have any discernable raw ability, their attitude and how they approach asking for assistance. It's competition for a limited resource and people aren't inclined to give their hard earned insight away to someone who will then compete with them for the resource.

    To the second point there is a set of rules and if everyone is competing for the same resource while following the rules than it works out. You play fair but tough. New people work hard but don't know enough to work smart and many with experience work smart but not hard. I try to do both. Trouble arises when someone wants the rules to be bent either way each time to however it benefits them. That's when things need to be resolved- one way or another.

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    surfing cannot be taught, only learned. If I tell some dude to stop paddling into closeouts and get to his feet faster he is still going to eat it all day. You will eat it until you find ways to not eat it, that is human nature. You learn to surf by surfing. Some pick it right up, some suck forever. Personally, I don't think it's my responsibility to interfere. If you are drowning, I will save you, but that is about where I draw the line. Good luck with that! And as said above, pura vida!

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    Quote Originally Posted by leethestud View Post
    surfing cannot be taught, only learned. If I tell some dude to stop paddling into closeouts and get to his feet faster he is still going to eat it all day. You will eat it until you find ways to not eat it, that is human nature. You learn to surf by surfing. Some pick it right up, some suck forever. Personally, I don't think it's my responsibility to interfere. If you are drowning, I will save you, but that is about where I draw the line. Good luck with that! And as said above, pura vida!
    True, but etiquette can be taught, and that is the singlemost important thing a beginner can learn. If you get dropped in on by some kook, yelling at him may work, but so would teaching him about priority. If he drops in again after getting the initial polite lesson, then yell at him and beat him up if you want to. A lot of the etiquette rules seems like common sense to people who have been surfing for awhile, but common sense is not so common.

    Some people (including experienced surfers who should know better) are just jerks and think the rules don't apply to them and that's where we run into problems. You see it every day, in and out of the water. Yeah, we're all competing for a limited resource blah blah blah, but it doesn't give you the right to act like a dbag and snake people or drop in on them just because they're not as good as you. If they are respectful and are in position, it's their wave. I don't care if it's their first day or their 5000th.
    Last edited by zrich; May 16, 2012 at 09:36 PM.

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    localism is great

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    no one needs help.i got a board,stayed away from everyone,and learned how by paddling out and dropping in.if you want to do it,you'll make the effort.i knew enough to never go near anyone when i was a beginner.common sense.looking for a quicker way,wanting someone to hold your hand and explain everything when you don't know how is not how it works when everything is split-second the entire time from the moment you hit the water.paddle out and pay your dues and shut up.bunch of babies on this forum for years,now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by beachbreak View Post
    no one needs help.i got a board,stayed away from everyone,and learned how by paddling out and dropping in.if you want to do it,you'll make the effort.i knew enough to never go near anyone when i was a beginner.common sense.looking for a quicker way,wanting someone to hold your hand and explain everything when you don't know how is not how it works when everything is split-second the entire time from the moment you hit the water.paddle out and pay your dues and shut up.bunch of babies on this forum for years,now.
    There needs to be a law that says this post most be read and understood by every newbie who buys a board!!