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  1. #71
    Quote Originally Posted by Peajay4060 View Post
    I enjoy reading these threads and rarely post but I wanted to speak up this time. I don't know why. I don't know any of you people, but I do enjoy this forum and guys like Lee and the pumpmaster are why along with the folks who are arguing with them. i don't know what the heck this thread is about anymore but i know this:

    Anyone can become a surfer...anyone. But anyone that thinks surfing is a hobby is not one. There is a code to surfing that is unwritten and to become a surfer that code has to be learned and followed. This code, more of a guideline really ( guess the movie quote), is open to some interpretation depending where you're surfing. Go to most surf breaks and follow the code and there is no issue. Not following the code is grounds for regulation. This form of the regulation will depend what you did, how many times you did it and where you are. The times i've actually seen it come to blows are few and I have been surfing for 20+ years. What is great about surfing is this regulation stays in house. We don't call the cops. ever.
    This is the way it has always been since surfing began and I hope it never changes.

    Try dropping in on a hawaiian king pre captain cook and see what would have happened to you. you would probably be eaten at the next luau.

    I have a family, a career, a mortgage and all the rest of the american dream and I am a surfer.
    If anyone finds it sad that my entire life has been influenced by surfing and its code, it is because you are not one.
    PJ,
    You summed up what I was trying to say along. Thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Earl of Funk/Duke of Cool View Post
    PJ,
    You summed up what I was trying to say along. Thanks.
    You're welcome. You're one reason I don't post much. No sense saying what was already said.

  3. #73
    This is the most ridiculous thread ive ever seen. Just because a person isn't an experienced surfer, means they have no right to go surf? Most begginners try and stay out of the more experienced surfers way and this is usually only a problem in the summer when the waves generally suck. All anybody does on this forum is complain about kooks and begginners. I mean another thread about someone *****en about kooks and crowds will definitely solve the problem. How about the more experienced surfers (which everyone on this forum is) help the begginners so that they can learn etiquette and stay out of people's way. Not for their sake but for years. And this cold water brotheren in New Jersey is complete bulls*it. What makes cold water surfers cool is how humble they are and the lack of boasting and b*tching about the water. I'm not a great surfer but i can't stand the arrogance of some people on this forum because this thread is called "Nobody owes you anything" which goes the same for everybody. Because since your a better surfer, means that person owes you every wave. This arrogance is ridiculous

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    Let me see if I can sum up the whole thread in a sentence:
    Do whatever you want as long as it doesn't hurt or otherwise negatively impact anyone else (within reason), and don't be a dumbass or consequences will follow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oipaul View Post
    Let me see if I can sum up the whole thread in a sentence:
    Do whatever you want as long as it doesn't hurt or otherwise negatively impact anyone else (within reason), and don't be a dumbass or consequences will follow.
    thats about covers it. but it is alot less entertaining

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    Quote Originally Posted by Earl of Funk/Duke of Cool View Post
    Dear Kyle,
    Sorry for the late reply to all of your wisdom. I was surfing then working. Please don't call me a Neanderthal because I explained how it WAS when I first learned to surf. I never said it was right. It was just the REAL WORLD back then. When I said regulated, I meant you surfed at the next sandbar down from the more experienced guys. It wasn't like Da Hui pounding Rick Kane but close. Even if it was only dirty, smelly, rude, crappy NJ, it was just where I happened to be born. I also was stating the obvious that the problems lee stated are a microcosm of lots of issues our great country is having. You seem like an enlightened liberal telling everyone what is RIGHT. We seem like ignorant conservatives, telling everyone to F%ck off.
    I simply stated that back in the day (old fart alert) it seemed safer in the water when there wasn't all these newcomers and new types of craft at every break all year long. (except mid-winter). I have never had a physical altercation over waves in America. (One in France when I was in my 20s) It is all about fun, but it aint fun when it aint safe. Kyle, sorry to use the word aint, I know a nice liberal fellow like yourself will correct me.

    I'm a registered Libertarian, just think before I speak, didn't know that made me a liberal. Yes, it may have been safer in crappy NJ when you were a kid, but you can't stop people from progressing i.e. paddleboarding, sponging, etc. so ok, yeah, back in your day when there were a) less people b) less private beached and c) it was less popular, I'm sure it was better in your hazy recollection, but your REAL WORLD back doesn't apply now and you just sound like an old asshole.

    Yes, I will consider myself enlightened person, if by that you mean, I understand that the world progresses, and with that comes more people. Do you go home at night and complain about all the traffic, people, and prices of everything everyday? Because it's the same thing, you call it the "*****fication of America" I call it realizing we are not the best or only people on this Earth, kinda like you "old guys" thought about your break back in the day.

    Your time has passed, let some groms catch some waves.
    Last edited by Kyle; May 23, 2012 at 09:09 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peajay4060 View Post
    I enjoy reading these threads and rarely post but I wanted to speak up this time. I don't know why. I don't know any of you people, but I do enjoy this forum and guys like Lee and the pumpmaster are why along with the folks who are arguing with them. i don't know what the heck this thread is about anymore but i know this:

    Anyone can become a surfer...anyone. But anyone that thinks surfing is a hobby is not one. There is a code to surfing that is unwritten and to become a surfer that code has to be learned and followed. This code, more of a guideline really ( guess the movie quote), is open to some interpretation depending where you're surfing. Go to most surf breaks and follow the code and there is no issue. Not following the code is grounds for regulation. This form of the regulation will depend what you did, how many times you did it and where you are. The times i've actually seen it come to blows are few and I have been surfing for 20+ years. What is great about surfing is this regulation stays in house. We don't call the cops. ever.
    This is the way it has always been since surfing began and I hope it never changes.

    Try dropping in on a hawaiian king pre captain cook and see what would have happened to you. you would probably be eaten at the next luau.

    I have a family, a career, a mortgage and all the rest of the american dream and I am a surfer.
    If anyone finds it sad that my entire life has been influenced by surfing and its code, it is because you are not one.
    You guys and this "code" you act like it's something special...it's not...it's called respect, and if you need surfing to teach it to you, then by all means, more power to you.

    BUT, my point to all this is that, all you guys "defined" by surfing need to realize it's just respect you want, whether you're surfing or not, life is about respecting humans and being respected.

    Sooo....long story short you guys want to be respected just cause you've been in one place for your whole life and surf that break every or just cause you're old, but you don't want to respect anyone else you don't know.

    You're right, if being a one-dimensional person and defining myself as only a "surfer" and living by a "code" someone else decided before I was born, makes me not a surfer, then just call me a watersports enhtusiast.

    P.S. You're not dropping in Hawaii, that's the point, quit acting like your home break is Pipeline.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mass surf View Post
    This is the most ridiculous thread ive ever seen. Just because a person isn't an experienced surfer, means they have no right to go surf? Most begginners try and stay out of the more experienced surfers way and this is usually only a problem in the summer when the waves generally suck. All anybody does on this forum is complain about kooks and begginners. I mean another thread about someone *****en about kooks and crowds will definitely solve the problem. How about the more experienced surfers (which everyone on this forum is) help the begginners so that they can learn etiquette and stay out of people's way. Not for their sake but for years. And this cold water brotheren in New Jersey is complete bulls*it. What makes cold water surfers cool is how humble they are and the lack of boasting and b*tching about the water. I'm not a great surfer but i can't stand the arrogance of some people on this forum because this thread is called "Nobody owes you anything" which goes the same for everybody. Because since your a better surfer, means that person owes you every wave. This arrogance is ridiculous
    At least someone gets it. The ocean belongs to no one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Earl of Funk/Duke of Cool View Post
    PJ,
    You summed up what I was trying to say along. Thanks.
    same here but I'm a contrarian (I like that)

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    im not "defined" by surfing. I'm certainly not one dimensional. I wrote surfing influences me.
    i learned respect from my dad not from surfing. i don't need to be respected. i like to have respect and i respect others wishes. i traveled the world and surfed in places you wish you have. i showed respect when i was there and was given respect becuase of it.

    i wasn't even thinking of you when i posted. i was enjoying your posts. I didn't attack you for what you believe i listened and retorted.

    i believe you have a issues with reading comprehension. you may think before you speak but you do not bother to comprehend what you are reading before you write. if you feel that is an attack its not it just ny opinion.

    i chose to not call you a "surfer". You are not one which is clear by what you are saying. plus the fact that you left a wave rich coast for this one and FLA to boot. this is also not an attck but what i think.
    I chose to not call you a "watersport enthuisiast" just becuase it sounds stupid.


    i chose not to call you anything because you are nothing to me.