yes, it is almost cliche to call thing simmons now, but it is what people understand them as , just like when your make a small wave shortboard, you have to call it a dwart or dumpster diver.... even though big name companies are not the originator of these designs, it is what the mass understand them as.... i have been lucky enough to learn from some really amazing shapers and people... would i love to go back in time and see and talk to the greatest shapers in the world.... yes what shaper wouldn't. The wealth of knownledge out their that most people take for granted or just dont care about is immense. I wish i could have all the innovators of this industry in one room and just talk to them for hours.... that would be the dream ehhh? I dont believe hydrodynamica has been released yet.