I am bumping this. Good post. Well said.There's nothing wrong with making it and I'm the sort who believes that if you don't like something, fine don't buy it. Vote with your wallet, but giving any entitiy a pass just because "that's business", is a problem.
Nike did start small. Walmart did too. H-e-double hockey sticks, most people forget or don't know that up until Sam Walton died in the mid-90's, Walmart prided themselves on being one of the largest distributors of goods "Made In America". Walmart was one of the direct reasons that the 89-91 recession wasn't nearly as bad as it was, no bull. SAm made a commitment to buy American goods and sell them cheaply. His kids, who are some of the richest people in the world, most certainly don't follow that credo now and Nike never did (I'm not knocking being rich or making it or any of that, just pointing out that they're commitment to profit is greater than their commitment to the ol' U.S. of A.; G-D, Family, and Country above all else is a credo that has been lost in my life time).
That's why I'm wearing New Balance shoes and socks right now, because they're a company that has made a commitment to keeping and bringing back manufacturing jobs. The NB socks I'm wearing right now, the label they sport cost me 2$ more a 3-pack. It ain't the NB on the back either, it's what's woven into the weave on the inside of the collar that counts. In big, block, bold letters it says, "MADE IN THE USA" and they were. The last car I bought my wife was a Ford. Three reasons, quality control improvements, assembled in America (I know a great many of the parts say "Hecho en Mexico) and they didn't take TARP money. When Ford stock plummeted in March of 2009, I put even more money where my mouth is and bought every share I could, because I believe in the company and their ideals. From the New Balance website:
"We made our first pair of running shoes in 1938 and hold the distinction as the only company that still manufactures athletic shoes in the USA. One out of every four pair of shoes we sell in the U.S. is made or assembled here. Where the domestic value is at least 70% we have labeled them "Made in the USA"."
I guess my point is, in the U.S. a corporation has the same rights as an individual. We as surfers talk about educating people in the line-up, community focus and informing ourselves on local issues. When we go other places, we talk about respecting them, acting properly and giving as much as we take (don't be a wave hog). These are kind of hallmarks of "good citizenship". If a corporate entity is a person, why do they get a pass on being poor citizens? If a person you know kept children in miserable conditions, in indentured servitude with no hope of anything better in this life; would you give that person your hard earned money? I try not to.
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Aug 1, 2012, 02:36 PM #63
Aug 1, 2012, 05:48 PM #64Junior Member
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with that pressure trickling down to brick and mortar stores they are no longer able to invest in local or small companies. and the big D*cks are giving them reasons and great prices to not ever have to go back to a hodgepodge of surf and skate brands plus it's easier for them to only place orders from a few people.
not to mention the (almost) complete extinction of sales reps. the only companies that can afford to get their product in front of shops are the big guys now anyways.
hopefully these last 90 days of summer were profitable for the shops and they will make the right decision when order time comes. but they only order what kids ask for. now with kids only seeing nike in their shops i wonder what they'll ask for...
Aug 1, 2012, 06:09 PM #65
the economy is an impact for sure but there have always been big boy against the little guy. If the big boys produce crap, they will go under or cut that business line loose due to low sales. Look at Gotcha. They were HUGE in the 80s but where are they now?
Aug 1, 2012, 09:13 PM #66Senior Member
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Aug 2, 2012, 12:32 AM #69
wrv has been around for ever, and grew with the sport. nike jumped on the band wagon when it saw how much money there was to be made. bought there way right to the top so they can capitolize on surfing and skating.
Aug 2, 2012, 12:52 AM #70
Thanks for all the support guys and have another on me!