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    Shaping a board, definitely happening this time

    Ok guys I was broke and then my neighbors dog ran away and they put out stuff and it was a 500 dollar reward and I found the dog and returned so i got some money and I have decided it to use it to shape my own stick.

    I am going to greenlight tomorrow or thursday,

    What tools do I need?

    I want to shape a single fin shortboard that's around 20 inches wide but the kit comes with a thruster glass on set up and I was gonna get the uv cure resin so I don't have mix and worry about time, should I do the kit and regular resin for the first time or can I go the other way?

    I want to do something like the polder hull design, look it up it's pretty neat

    Will it be to hard?

    He has a patent on it. Can I still make it?

    Thanks guys
    Last edited by Zman9398; Aug 1, 2012 at 04:03 AM.

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    the most simple tools needed are a hard block for sand paper, 36 grit sandpaper, sanding screen for rails and finishing, trim plane, handsaw for outline.

    For glassing, resin a squeegee, hotcoat brush(2) fiberglass, fin boxs or glass on fins, 60 grit 80 grit 120 grit sandpaperIf you are doing in your house or garage use Epoxy (ce) it will be a bit slower for a first time glassing, Epoxy is 100% VOC Free compared to poly which will stink our your entire house, not to mention the loss of brain cells you will get unless you buy a respirator. also if your doing it in your parents house they will most likely never let you do it again because of the odor.

    As far as the "polder hull design" hull are really meant for point breaks to be most effective, and i doubt it is actually patent. even if it is so your not making it for commercial use, even if you were the chances of someone suing you for $300.00 is 0. so yes you can make it to answer your next question will shaping a hull be hard, yes. perfect hull bottoms are challenging but obtainable. but once again i wouldn't shape a hull for beach break.

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    Zman,
    I've shaped and glassed a few boards using the fast cure Resin Research epoxy (45 +/- minutes work time at the temps in my shed) and a few using the poly UV sun cure epoxy (take as long as you like glassing, then move the board into the sunlight to cure on saw horses) Both work just fine. The Epoxy seems to result in a stronger board to me, the UV sun cure poly seems easier to sand out to a nice finish, and really works well at the hotcoating stage. Protect your skin and lungs while glassing and sanding regardless of what resin you choose...the Poly is definately nastier stuff.

    If you are still asking basic questions like what resin, what shape, what tools, how hard, you arent ready to go out tomorrow and buy everything. You should do more research, have a shaping and glassing game plan, watch some instructional videos. Take your time and do it right. Atalls tool suggestions are a start..i borrowed a power planer, and bought a surform for my first board.

    Have you ridden a polder hull board, seen one, or heard how it rides in the waves you ride? I recommend choosing a shape with a fairly simple outlines, bottom contours (flat bottomed fishes simple single concaves works!) and shapes you are used to for your first shaping attempt.
    Last edited by mitchell; Aug 1, 2012 at 01:05 PM.

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    How do you make a concave and should I make a fish or a shortboard for my first board because I want a fish but isn't the fish tail hard?

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    A fish tail is tricky, but if you have the skills to build a board, you have the skills to do a fish tail. Concaves can be done with a surform and soft block. Once you get the hang of the planer, you'll rough it out with that... but that's down the road.

    A fish is a fairly forgiving design... less foiling, thicker rails, flatter rocker... so it's a good first shape, for sure. Glass on those fins, too!

    You might consider taking the Brookdale class that starts in about 3 weeks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zman9398 View Post
    How do you make a concave and should I make a fish or a shortboard for my first board because I want a fish but isn't the fish tail hard?
    if everything in life was easy than everyone would do everything, you need to work and strive to be a craftsman, it doesn't come easy. But as you work hard and accomplish your task the reward is great.

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    u had the dog lol

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    its going to take 1,000's of board to get good at shaping man, try a simple shape, single concave single fin retro box rail or some ****. when that rides tweak it for your next shape. ive made 22 boards now and just getting out of the full rail design.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zman9398 View Post
    How do you make a concave and should I make a fish or a shortboard for my first board because I want a fish but isn't the fish tail hard?
    The first three boards i shaped were all fishes. If you have a good board outline, shaping a decent swallow tail, or fish isn't hard at all compared to many other aspects. I make my concaves using a small surform to rough them in, then 40 grit and then 80 grit to smooth the concaves, and a two foot straight edge to lay down on the board crosswise and more easily see the concaves/symmetry

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    What respirator should I get?