Turtle... From the outside looking in (west to east?) it sounds like you've got a good "big picture" perspective. Thanks for your insightful posting.
But I hope you have it wrong about the "holier then thou" attitude of the consumer. I like to think there's more to it than just blind faith.
Resale is another issue entirely... at least for the guys I know. Few if any make that a consideration when they're choosing a board. I'm thinking proximity may pay a role in that as well, but most guys here who are looking for a custom have pretty high standards and know at least SOMETHING about what they're buying. They're a discerning and educated consumer, skeptical about where the "herd" is leading them, and have at least the presence of mind to look beyond the brand. This, at least to me, is the opposite of narrowmindedness. Money and quality waves around here are equally short lived and hard earned.
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Oct 3, 2012, 02:39 AM #21
Oct 3, 2012, 03:29 AM #24Senior Member
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- Aug 2012
the board I loved most was my Rusty Piranha. If you've ever seen an actual Preisendorfer shaped Piranha up close, the shaping is absolutely gorgeous and the rails are the most perfect I've ever seen. Unfortunately, mine was a tuflite and, as many of you know, they are way too light and extremely slow...but the tuflite Piranha is a 100% Preisendorfer computer clone. In fact, I kept riding it much longer than I should because the shape was just so amazingly beautiful.
I also tried a hand shaped EPS "Rusty" Piranha, just to see if it was any faster...but it was almost as light and still too slow. To make matters worse, this one was shaped by a ghost shaper and had none of the finesse the Preisendorfer clone had, especially in the rails.
(^this phase was just after clark foam went under and everyone was trying new things)
point is, these big name shapers really are (were) the cream of the crop
Nov 14, 2012, 05:34 AM #26
Ci's have great glass jobs. just purchased my one due to the whole $$$ issue, but theyre worth it.
Dec 24, 2012, 02:24 AM #27
CI's have the worst and cheapest glass job in the industry. They've always been glassed buy Hawkinsen in Santa Barbara and it's always been among the worst glassing I've ever seen. Over the years they have never improved. Rusty is one of the best shapers I've ever seen (I mean I've seen him shape a board) don't know about the quality of the glassing on his boards. I have no respect for lost surfboards. Don't care to go in to it except to say the owner is an ass.
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Dec 24, 2012, 02:40 AM #28
rusty is a fantastic shaper & really knows is craft, but has fallen victim a little to the "model" craze, i think, & is playing catch-up. 20 years ago, the r dot brand was one of the foremost names in surfboards, but has since been replaced by ci & lost. personally, i think his boards are a bit low volume & are thin for the various shapes widths & lengths, but that's just my own opinion.
matt biolos (lost's co-founder & lead shaper) is probably one of the most progressive shapers in the industry today. he may be an ass (i've never met him myself, but liked how he called out the young us pros on instagram back in the spring), but he is an innovative designer, good marketer, & has never claimed pro-level ability for himself, which (true or not) draws a lot of average joes to his shapes. you may not like matt as a person, but his ability as a shaper & designer are hard to match.
Dec 24, 2012, 05:15 PM #29
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- Crystal Coast,N.C.
Dec 24, 2012, 06:06 PM #30
My local shaper says his ding repairs are 95% CI's from poor glassing and a friend has a new one for sale he's only ridden a couple times but looks like it's 10 years old.
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- Jan 2009
- milton delaware
ci contracts out to a large # of glass houses, including moonlight, one of the most highly respected glassing organizations in the country, as well as mystery, haakonsen, guru & a few others
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