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    Re: $6 Gas = Empty Lineups

    I'll keep this short and let the film I linked do the talking. Only thing I will say is America only has 5% of the world's population, yet we consume 25% of the world's resources.

    http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/the-****-it-point/

    BTW Anyone interested in starting a homstead, preferably with good surf, PM me. Serious replys only please.

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    Quote Originally Posted by archy View Post
    BTW Anyone interested in starting a homstead, preferably with good surf, PM me. Serious replys only please.
    What does this mean?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ClemsonSurf View Post
    What does this mean?
    It means getting off the financial and political grid, and living in a sustainable manner, in a sustainable enviornment.

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    I'm down, all we need is good companym healthy food and some gnarly waves. Hell I'll live in a shake the rest if my life if it means riding waves and doing what I love everyday. Let the politicians and the Barney's worry about the gov't and how it's run. I just want to go surf.

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    ^^healthy food and some gnarly waves. Hell I'll live in a shake the rest if my life^^
    Maybe you could live in a smoothie..

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    I thank all who contribute with open mindedness. 100 million probably will die when this system collapses. If alot of people have'nt noticed, water is becoming scarce. Why do you think companies like Coca Cola and Nestle are buying up most of the world's water rights. Residents of Maine have undergone water restrictions, but the Poland Spring's (Nestle) trucks leave on or ahead of schedule during those times. People have got to wake up. Many are too busy cheering on their favorite team while consuming corporate goods. 5% of the population-25% of the resources. It's that simple. If your not willing to, then how about this If you want to see gas go down in price: stop eating beef. It takes 25 gallons of gasoline and 2500 gallons of water for the production of 1 pound of beef. Your tax dollars pay for that through subsidies from the government. Also the increase of large scale farming requires tons of pesticides and herbacides. Resulting in soil degredation, polluted enviornments, and an increases of cancer. It is not sustainable. Where the 80% percent now live, used to be farm land. Here in Jersey where I live, we had farms right here at the beach. Now its filled with yuppies who commute to Manhattan every day. The whole monetary system and the life that revolves around it is why there are wars, famines, and polution. It will not last forever. And if any of you have children and care about their future you should take note.

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    Quote Originally Posted by archy View Post
    I'll keep this short and let the film I linked do the talking. Only thing I will say is America only has 5% of the world's population, yet we consume 25% of the world's resources.

    http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/the-****-it-point/

    BTW Anyone interested in starting a homstead, preferably with good surf, PM me. Serious replys only please.
    yo archy, this is an environmental terrorism brainwashing video...these people are no different than Al-Quada....blowing sh!t up ain't going to help, we already have enough nutjobs in this country, don't ya think?
    You want to go back to living in nature, start sleeping in the woods near your house, and tell me how much better it is than sleeping under a roof.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Koki Barrels View Post
    yo archy, this is an environmental terrorism brainwashing video...these people are no different than Al-Quada....blowing sh!t up ain't going to help, we already have enough nutjobs in this country, don't ya think?
    You want to go back to living in nature, start sleeping in the woods near your house, and tell me how much better it is than sleeping under a roof.
    Homesteading has nothing to do with sleeping in the woods. It means to live in a sustainable way. I'm talking solar powered, heated house, with hot water. Growing your own food, and raising your own livestock. This whole American Dream idea is not very old. Suburbia is an experiment, and it's failing. Sure there is plenty of oil, but at what cost. Maybe its the picture of that funny baseball dude that makes me think your alright, but your living in a bubble. Most of America is living in a bubble. We don't see the wars, and devestated communities when we open our front door. This video is not brainwashing. It's reality. Have you been to West Virginia and Eastern Kentuckey lately? Whole mountain tops are gone from coal production. The once lush forrested mountians are piles of dust. How about Western Pennsylvania and Eastern Texas? They can light their tap water on fire from the effects of hydrofracking for natural gas. Been to Louisianna lately? Ask the fishermen how thier catch was this year compared to past years, and if they noticed anything strange about some of the fish? That's just oil and gas, and that's just in the U.S. What about tar sands and nuclear, and the rest of the world? Just cause it isn't happening in your back yard, does'nt mean it's not happening.

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    Oh yeah, Koki, if you're willing to pay a million bucks for a gallon of gas, how bout sharing some of that wealth?

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    Quote Originally Posted by archy View Post
    Homesteading has nothing to do with sleeping in the woods. It means to live in a sustainable way. I'm talking solar powered, heated house, with hot water. Growing your own food, and raising your own livestock. This whole American Dream idea is not very old. Suburbia is an experiment, and it's failing. Sure there is plenty of oil, but at what cost. Maybe its the picture of that funny baseball dude that makes me think your alright, but your living in a bubble. Most of America is living in a bubble. We don't see the wars, and devestated communities when we open our front door. This video is not brainwashing. It's reality. Have you been to West Virginia and Eastern Kentuckey lately? Whole mountain tops are gone from coal production. The once lush forrested mountians are piles of dust. How about Western Pennsylvania and Eastern Texas? They can light their tap water on fire from the effects of hydrofracking for natural gas. Been to Louisianna lately? Ask the fishermen how thier catch was this year compared to past years, and if they noticed anything strange about some of the fish? That's just oil and gas, and that's just in the U.S. What about tar sands and nuclear, and the rest of the world? Just cause it isn't happening in your back yard, does'nt mean it's not happening.

    I used to live in Colorado and lived in a house that had solar panels powering the hot water heater. In a city that is a mile high and gets 300+ days of sunshine per year a back up oil water heater was still needed. Alternative fuels such as wind and solar are great in theory, but today the technology isn't there for these energy sources to be sustainable and replace oil. There is a lot of oil on US soil, we shouldn't abanden green energy but for the sake of our economy go after the resources that we have. The more oil we produce here the less money we put in the pockets of angry jihadists that want to kill us