I am in my sixties and started longboarding @18 months ago here in Florida near Sebastian Inlet. Of course I am totally hooked. Last winter I used a 3/2 Roxy wetsuit and wore a sleeveless 1 mm top under it. On windy days I wore a sleeveless zip up 2 mm vest. There were a few days I was barely warm enough.
I am thinking of getting a 4/3 for this winter as I bet the water and air will be colder than last winter.
Here's the question : if you wear a 1 mm sleeveless top under a 3/2 long suit, is it the same as wearing a 4/3 suit in terms of warmth. Or is it totally a different animal?
I've been in 68 degree water with air temps in the upper 70s and been perfectly comfy in a 4/3. Don't listen to some of the advice on here. A lot of these guys surf in the middle of the winter in the mid atlantic/northeast and say their comfy.(I've seen them shaking violently and near hypothermia with no feeling in their hands and they'll say their warm)
As far as layering. It's a terrible idea like other said. It really restricts movement/bunches up and is uncomfortable and isn't as warm.
You can barely tell the difference between a 3/2 or 4/3 when it comes to movement. You will notice the difference in warmth though.
Last edited by shark-hunter; Nov 5, 2012 at 01:51 AM.
I've been in 68 degree water with air temps in the upper 70s and been perfectly comfy in a 4/3. . . .
surf for hours in 80-90 degree water in 90-100 degrees. I sweat buckets, gotta keep hydrated likes a mofo. I sweat in Cali when the water gets up around 72 degrees and the air temps in the 90's, summatime. I was trunking it today in 66 degree water and 70 degree air. What you surf a 4:3 in, wow! I was in for almost two hours and then biked the mile home soaking, not shivering. I get hot in a 4:3 in anything above 55 degrees. Like ball sweating hot. Don't own booties, don't own a hood.
It has a lot to do with personal preference, time in the water, adaptation to one's local conditions and in my case, my physiology. I'm half walrus.
Now THAT I want to see! Single layer, taped seams (minimal flushing) ultra flexible is the route to go Betty. The problem will likely be more the air temps than the water temps. Whisky Militia sometimes has some real bargains. I just picked up a 6/5/4 Xcel Infiniti hooded suit for $199 there.
Last edited by MDSurfer; Oct 18, 2012 at 05:12 PM.
The 4/3 is 4mm at the core and 3mm for limbs, the 3/2 is 3mm at the core and 2mm for the limbs. With a 1mm sleeveless top under the 3/2 it would be like a 4/2 rather then a 4/3 as far as mathematics go. I think you would be warmer with a 4/3 because 1) it is thicker all around, and 2 it wouldn't be as bulky as having layers of gear on. Plus, if you get real cold, you can wear the 1mm sleeveless under the 4/3 and be extra toasty. In addition, some 4/3 suits have the optional hoodie you can attach if need be, but you are in Florida and Im not sure how cold it really gets down there.
as others have said, it would be more like a 4/2 than a 4/3. however, layering wetsuits is always a bad idea, b/c you end up w/ a far bulkier & cumbersome affair than you would w/ a proper wetsuit. i've done the hooded vest under my 4/3 thing here in nj & even found that to be more restrictive than normal; enough so that if a hood is needed, i'd rather wear a quid lid or my 5/4.