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Thread: ASP is a Joke!

  1. #21
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    I watched the whole thing live, via the webcast, and I thought it was going to be really really close to getting the score for JW to win. I thought the wave was about a half point or so too high based on previous waves. Guys we are talking a half point too high. Watching the heat analizer maybe Gabbys waves looked better. But if you watched the enitre finals (quater filals on thru) you see that the Judges were fairly consistent.
    I honestly think it comes down to this, Gabriel lost the heat based on his bad use of priority, not on Julians domination of the heat. Their scoring waves were similar in way of difficulty of manuevers, critical sections, barrel time, size of wave etc., but Gabe had the win, but he screwed up on proiority. Theres always going to be a half a point or so opion difference, you see it all the time thats why the judges drop the top and bottom score and average the 3 remaning, it gives them the best avearge.
    Honestly the judging has gotten so much better, its nice to see that one air cant beat three huge Gaffs anymore unless the air is 6 foot above the lip.
    I love the new ASP and i think its better than its ever been as far as trying to get the right socres by using replay and such. There is always going to be waves under scored and overscored, its a judged event and you cant take the emotion out of it when you try to score waves days later on the Heat Analiyzer. Its part of sport, the emotion, etc.
    If that didnt matter they would just get everyone to surf 5 heats against random draws and tally everyones best ten waves, guy with the highest score of those 10 waves wins. They could judge it a week later, sitting in a condo watching heat analyzer.

    Great final, super colse, but JW got the half point he needed becasue he pulled that waveoff in dying seconds. The pressure was that much more when he surfed that wave, last shot to get a score high enough to win, he got just enough probably or maybe a bit below minus the emotion of wave, but being he did it with his last wave after Gabby lost prioirity all the Judges thought it was worthy. Judges compared it to the other waves in the heat. I dont care either way, Gabe will get his world title in the next few years, Brazzo or not, JW will be the next Parko always top 5 in the world but never enough moxey to win the whole thing.

  2. #22
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    Ok, well said.

  3. #23
    Gabriel is a whinny bit$*... It was so close and he screwed up. It's his own fault. If you look at the two waves scored for each, you can't tell me that his were so obviously better than Julian's... I understand being frustrated, but after watching his rection I'm glad he lost.
    And maybe if he didn't turn to the judges everytime he got a decent wave, they'd score him better. He claims every wave he stands up on!

  4. #24
    Quote Originally Posted by superbust View Post
    Yea they totally gave that one to JW. Medina had a highly technical wave and a pretty long barrel. I don't see how either of Julian's waves scored above Medina's. Oh well though, Medina is a far better surfer and his consistency speaks volumes. He'll be a champ before JW.
    Agree to disagree with that statement. julian is far better style wise. he approaches waves with a total different mind setting on what he wants to do i think. medina is still young and from watching his surfing he just approaches a section and hopes for the best. his surfing is ugly and not anywhere near as entertaining to watch compared to julian.

    They are both still young. but medina is old enough where he shouldn't cry like a baby and have a tantrum because he lost. get a grip. guys who have been on the tour way longer and never ever win or rarely make it to semi or finals don't cry.

  5. #25
    http://www.surfline.com/surf-news/an...url-pro_77870/

    same old 360 gets old need some variation in there

  6. #26
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    primo,
    i went back and watched the 4 scored waves again. Medina got robbed. Look at Medinas 2nd scoring wave vs julians 2nd scoring wave and i think it says it all right there. medinas barrel was way longer. julians barrel was short, he didnt come out clean, and then threw up three sh!tty turns, which shouldnt have made much of a difference in the score. although he did get a bit deep in the barrel off of the drop. i think he was overscored by about 1.5 - 2 points. to give him an 8.5 for that wave is insane.