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    Quote Originally Posted by quiksilver1231 View Post
    but if you're 18 and finishing 2nd in ASP events I don't think you have much to get pissed about.
    & this mindset is what separates those who will succeed at a given endeavor & those that won't...say what you will about sharing the line up w/ brazzos & medina's style (personally, i hate it...ugliest thing in surfing & i think medina's a one-trick pony), but they have a passion & drive to succeed that puts them head & shoulders above the coddled, spoiled young american pros who get everything handed to them from the moment they can link 2 turns together. outside of john john florence, there is not a single young pro on the tour capable of winning the title in the 10-15 years. not one. the brazzos, on the other hand...they are hungry as hell & the up & comers have to fight their way to the top. medina's just the tip of the iceburg. to paraphrase matt biolos, the young american pros need to put down the iphones, quit posting on the blog, & start entering contests.
    now, does that make the way medina behaved, crying, ripping his sponsor's hat off his head, stomping off the podium, etc...acceptable? not at all...the height of unsportsmanlike conduct. but, as i noted, he's passionate, driven, & was bitterly disappointed. anyone remember when kolohe andino literally punched the nose off his board at the trestles contest? or how about slater's board punching days? medina'll learn. & when he does...watch out. i may not like his style, but he's going to win a title or 2 & soon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by njsurfer42 View Post
    now, does that make the way medina behaved, crying, ripping his sponsor's hat off his head, stomping off the podium, etc...acceptable? not at all...
    exactly, sure you need a drive to win but he's so young and has so much time to win a contest I don't think that was all called for really. on a side note, I too hate medina and his style with a passion haha

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    wilson and medina were ranked pretty close before going into that comp. If medina wanted it that bad, he coulda tried harder. You can't have such a close heat and leave it in the hands of the judges....it can go either way.

    Don't know why the dude was crying...save it for when you win your 10th world title. Kinda gives the vibe of a spoiled little rich brat.
    Last edited by waterbaby; Oct 23, 2012 at 03:46 AM.

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    asp, figure skating and gymnastics. who cares, really?

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    Quote Originally Posted by throatybarrels View Post
    For each contests the judges judge upon the spot that is being surfed. In the case Supertubos it is pretty obvious that barrels will be scored higher than airs or maneuvers. Sure, Medina did a crazy technical air that was awesome but he didnt hunt deep barrels like Julian did. Obviously on a comp screen things look different but you must realize that supertubos is a heavy wave. Julians barrels were much deeper and he managed to squeeze out of both his top two waves right through thick walls and on his buzzer beater he linked with a few nice turns as well. Gabe's barrels were smaller and not as deep. Although I think Julians last wave was overscored, I think it was definitely above a 7.6 which was what he needed to win. In the end I think the right man won. I don't really buy all the anti brasilian talk that goes on. I spent a lot of time in Brasil and know what the surfers are like. They are definitely assholes but they are a product of the super crowded beachbreaks they come from. They can be sore losers but so can other guys on tour its because they want to win BADLY. Brasilians are always out to prove themselves among the worlds elite hence the excessive claiming. I think Medina and Wilson will become a great rivalry in the future.
    Throaty pretty much nailed my disposition on this subject. I want to add that the camera views you see on the webcast ARE NOT what the judges see. The beach-front direct angle is the closest to what the judges are seeing--if you compare Gabby and Jules' barrels from this angle you can clearly see that Gabby was not as deep on either and his waves are smaller. If you watch enough contests you will come to realize judges make the biggest distinctions in scoring based on wave size (remember the Bells contest resulting in Fanning's win), plus this is even more apparent at locations that are more barrel driven events like Tavarua, Fiji, Snapper, etc. Look back at this year's Snapper event and compare the waves that included barrels and a few solid turns vs. the ones that only included turns, albeit 8 or 9 on one wave.
    Long story short, you get a larger set wave that will give you a combo of barrel and open face for turns/airs you will always get a score in the excellent range. These days you almost have to do a gigantic flip reverse if you want to get more than an 8 for an air.

    Cresto: To each his own, but I say the same thing about a bunch of grabass loving NFL fans whining about some stupid ref contract debacle, anyone completely wrapped up in watching people loping around indoors tossing a ball through a hoop or fanatical about the finer politics in sports that involve swinging sticks at balls.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cresto4 View Post
    asp, figure skating and gymnastics. who cares, really?
    i wouldn't lump contest surfing with figure skating. there are 2 or more individuals on the playing field at the same time. Like Boxing or MMA. Those sports have judges too but you would rather knock the opponent out then leave it to the judges. you almost have too when facing a champ. Maybe the same goes for pro surfing. you want to ensure your win you shouldn't let your guard down (give up priority) at the end of the last round and allow your opponent ( who only scored a couple of 2's prior right?) to deliver a last minute haymaker.

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    I think it's the nature of sports competition that are "judged", sometimes mistakes are made. Not so much because of bias, but because of what judges see and like. Judges aren't perfect but sometimes we need them to have the competitons. As sportsmen, we understand this and learn to accept it. GM is an exeptional surfer and has a good future. Professional ?... I don't know, maybe that will come with experience and maturity.

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    I must add that I think Rip should cut Gabby's bonus for walking off the stage right as Jules was being announced. At least Jules called him out in his victory speech.

    And for the record, I don't like either one of them although Gabby Megina is on my Fantasy Surfer team.

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    You guys can spin the **** whatever way you want, like we're not there, Julian's waves were bigger and deeper. It still was wrong and you know it. Please watch the final again and tell me honestly you think Julian won.

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    you still don't get ignorant and stomp off like that.