You make a great point Erock. There is no appreciation for quality and style let alone an understanding of real satisfaction. It is mainly the groms who have grown up in a self serving instant gratification society who think one lame air shot on the I Phone gives them cred. Same mentality that thinks butt chugging jager is better than sipping cognac..How can you enjoy that?Originally Posted by Erock
sounds like erock is bitter cause he cant do airs...anyways how can you say someone pumping down the line is wasting a wave? if the person enjoys how they ride the wave then who cares. its not like any of us can ride every wave the ocean throws our way so let people do as they wish. variation in wave riding is the only way our sport has gotten to where it is. i guess older people are stuck in the past and need to accept surfing is changing. i personally enjoy a nice power carve over an air but i can do airs all day
^^^THIS.
It's all about having fun. If the kid loves airs, I say good for him.
Go "super sonic" 1,000 X a day. You're bound to figure it out.
Whatever you say Mr. Mushburger. Tell me.... what about stinkbug hopping through an entire wave only to throw a Wilbur Kookmeyer air (you know, when the person's body goes one way and the board goes the other) has ANYTHING to do with "variation in wave riding [that] has gotten [surfing] to where it is"?
Also, how "old" are the "older people" to whom you are referring? I'm "Momentum Generation" age, I can pull airs and I can lay down rail and destroy a lip--preferring the latter over the former. Do you actually mean to claim that "older" people had no effect on surfing's progression? Are "older" people just here harshing your vibe and keeping you from "progressing?" I'm sure Pottz (I hope you know his importance in relation of the progression of the "air game"), Curren, Occy, Archy, etc would totally agree with you! Are you really that hopelessly myopic?
I remember my ESA days in middle and high school and how whacked out the judging got with the advent of the air game. Kids getting high scores for some lame powerless tail slide followed buy an even lamer chop-hop 180 or a whitewater 360. IMO that made surfing DIGRESS, but I played the game for a while because I like to win--it just got old ultimately.
Sure, there is definitely a big place for airs in our sport, but it's incredibly shortsighted to think they are the only thing that causes progress. Pumping (and more often than not it's really some spastically hyper version of the Huntington Hop) down the line of a wave on which multiple rail turns would be possible to complete before the closeout section has as much "progressive variation" as a longboarder dropping in on a wave then standing at the tail like a statue until the ride ends. Funny how you are calling one "progressive" and the other "stuck in the past."
Aerials are fun when you get the right section and can wrap around then launch.
Otherwise, power surfing still rules. Aerials waste the wave. This is coming from someone who can do an air reverse completely now.
hey eCOCK at what point did i say airs are the only way surfing progresses? o yeah i didnt. also im talking in general about "older people" obviously anyone any age can have a hand in the progression of surfing. im just referring to the stereotype. i do agree that someone pumping down the line to do some weak ass air does look terrible but who are we to judge? like i said surfing is about doing what you want on a wave. theres no set of guidelines on how to ride a wave which makes our sport different from others and totally badass. btw i think your reading into my posts a little too much there buddy. thanks for the great story of your glory years though. maybe you should live in the real world more and not worry about setting people straight with all your worldly knowledge of surfing. dont worry i wont look at this thread for at least a day so you can have time to compose another well thought out response
This thread reminds me of the Johnny Cash song Ring Of Fire.
Anyone get the joke...?
Thanx for all the helpfull suggestions several of you gave. As a life-long surfer in my mid-40s, who started surfing in California when i was 8, now in South Carolina it's been entertaining watching the age debate. You might grow old, but never grow up, and never be afraid to try new things.
A "punt" is a "punt" is a "punt." And it usually happens when you've run out of other options.
That's really original, really.... it is. Still not quite as funny as being told to enter the "real world" by someone who calls himself a "pro," from Folly nonetheless.
PRO: Hehe... yeah.
Green: Think about bending your front knee and extending your rear leg in a consistent and smooth motion when you try to launch. Learn how to read the lip in different conditions. Try going for distance and not height--this is the most common mistake people make, you will end up losing your momentum trying to go too vertical and it's easier to get the feel staying lower but covering the most distance as possible. MOST IMPORTANTLY: WIND!!! You want to have some sort of onshore, cross shore and/or combination of both to be the most successful. The idea is to be launching into the wind to help keep your board on your feet and more stable as you rotate.
Sure, I may be opinionated, but at least my experience through my "glory years" (whatever the hell those are anyway) has given me the ability to offer you multiple points of practice that will more than likely help.... unlike little Follybeechschmoe
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