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  1. #221
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    Ha ha I think your dreaming.

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    board looks fun to ride. I like the early entries before the fast section. looks to me like it's designed to suit a certain surfing preference. I noticed surfer in orange suit wasn't trying to do any squat and stretch cheater 5's or other arbitrary tricks, rather he was trimming and staying close to the pocket.
    how do the boards hold up over time? what's the maintenance to keep them from soaking up water?

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    [QUOTE=nynj;154571]
    Tell some super rich guy that it's the best thing ever and every once in a while some schmuck will buy it... QUOTE]

    As PT Barnum said, there's an a## for every seat.

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    Roy says Joel Tudor's surfing style is a handicap.... lol.

    Fake Roy you have done nothing good for yourself here. you just are trying to insist that your board shape is the best shape to ride a wave... which I think if you just want to stand in front of a pushing wall of water its ok. but you can't do anything with your board that takes advantage of a wave shape in terms of speed or def. not manueverability.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LBCrew View Post
    "parallel profile flexible torsion box construction"

    please explain... the words, taken literally, mean to me, "a hollow (box) construction with parallel template (rail outline) that allows a twisting flex pattern." Is that what you mean? If this is one of the key design features, please explain the physical/hydrodynamic principles at work and the advantages they give.

    regarding weight to length... how does your theory compare to the principles governing how short, heavy tow boards used in very large waves at very high speed work so well? And... what is the performance envelope of your various length and/or weight designs?

    If my questions need to be reframed, please reframe them, or tell me what frame I need to fit my questions into. These are sincere, genuine questions regarding design that might help everyone understand what you've been defending for 20 pages. Let's get down to the crux of the matter!
    This x2^

    It seems that most comments about Roy's boards are refuted by either the points being irrelevant or that you the commentator are wrong. For brevity, let's just say the price point and other things people may take issue are not relevant to this thread. It just seems odd that Roy makes a point to respond to most of these "irrelevant" comments, but seems to ignore the legitimate questions about his designs, like the one above...

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    Quote Originally Posted by gutterjack View Post
    board looks fun to ride. I like the early entries before the fast section. looks to me like it's designed to suit a certain surfing preference. I noticed surfer in orange suit wasn't trying to do any squat and stretch cheater 5's or other arbitrary tricks, rather he was trimming and staying close to the pocket.
    how do the boards hold up over time? what's the maintenance to keep them from soaking up water?
    Old people that can't physically take advantage of a performance board anymore? His videos honestly look like any random 60+ y/o beginner on an SUP.

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    My sh*tty SUP would outperform those lincoln logs

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    Beautiful left point wave in that vid. Wish we had one like that around here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roy Stuart View Post
    The Makaha 12-9 at The Point yesterday:
    suggested soundtrack:


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    I think what a lot of people are missing, well not really missing, I think you all get it but keep arguing with him anyway, is his design goals.
    Roy has clearly stated that it is about surfing efficiency. 1 definition of efficiency: accomplishment of or ability to accomplish a job with a minimum expenditure of time and effort. I think minimum effort is key here.
    So, performance to him is getting into the wave early, setting up and staying in trim with minimal effort.
    From what I gather this means standing in the same place on the board, with minimal movement from the rider (some squatting/standing changes, no walking or shuffling and minute 'turning' adjustments to stay in trim). Everything else (to him) is bullsh t

    His boards do seem to do that rather well. While that might not be what I want to do or experience that doesn't really matter. I think that is the whole point.

    So to argue about your board out performing his...you're talking about two very different ideas of what 'performing' is.
    The money thing is a whole other topic and one that I think isn't worth arguing with him either.

    Just my opinion, I don't know, maybe I've got it all wrong...