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    Quote Originally Posted by South Bethany View Post
    I'm guessing you're not in market research. A large percentage of people buy ****ty fried chicken because its cheap and convenient, not because they can't figure out to duplicate the recipe it at home!
    ???? That is not the point. KFC would not be the multi billion dollar company it is if they gave away the recipe. And in case you have not been in a KFC lately they are filled with poor people. Yes people will choose the lower cost product if given the option and it fills the same need with items such as food or drink, hence RC Cola instead of Coke but Coke is still a financial giant due to it's secret recipe and their sales crush RC Cola or other store brands. Why do you think people (not all mind you) lust after luxury cars when a Yugo will get them where they need to be? I do actually have a minor in marketing and understand your point but if you had the recipe for KFC would you not just make it at home like Charles did with Roy's board? This is the same as eating the ****y chicken (South Park Pun intended!) due to affordability and further proves my point to why Roy sells his plans which is a form of licensing them to others to build rather than cornering the market and only making them himself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rcarter View Post
    ???? That is not the point. KFC would not be the multi billion dollar company it is if they gave away the recipe. And in case you have not been in a KFC lately they are filled with poor people. Yes people will choose the lower cost product if given the option and it fills the same need with items such as food or drink, hence RC Cola instead of Coke but Coke is still a financial giant due to it's secret recipe and their sales crush RC Cola or other store brands. Why do you think people (not all mind you) lust after luxury cars when a Yugo will get them where they need to be? I do actually have a minor in marketing and understand your point but if you had the recipe for KFC would you not just make it at home like Charles did with Roy's board? This is the same as eating the ****y chicken (South Park Pun intended!) due to affordability and further proves my point to why Roy sells his plans which is a form of licensing them to others to build rather than cornering the market and only making them himself.
    yankee/rcarter is all about being right regardless of topic or how wrong she really is. her therapist is at a loss with her.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AtanticO View Post
    yankee/rcarter is all about being right regardless of topic or how wrong she really is. her therapist is at a loss with her.
    Care to elaborate on where I am wrong in my post? I stated it was my and others opinion that Roy's boards are overpriced, went on to say due to a free market economy that Roy can charge whatever he wants but should expect people to have negative reactions to the price and cited two famous case studies about proprietary formulas and how they can create multi billion dollar companies.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rcarter View Post
    Care to elaborate on where I am wrong in my post? I stated it was my and others opinion that Roy's boards are overpriced, went on to say due to a free market economy that Roy can charge whatever he wants but should expect people to have negative reactions to the price and cited two famous case studies about proprietary formulas and how they can create multi billion dollar companies.
    listen to yourself...you sound like an idiot. stop trying to sound smart when discussing a hippies surfboard or surfing in general. your a stupid, toothless, methed out southerner for crying out loud! shouldn't you be taking your toaster apart? what a mindless goon. all you do is argue and try be superior. why is it important you tell him whats up?

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    Quote Originally Posted by AtanticO View Post
    listen to yourself...you sound like an idiot. stop trying to sound smart when discussing a hippies surfboard or surfing in general. your a stupid, toothless, methed out southerner for crying out loud! shouldn't you be taking your toaster apart? what a mindless goon. all you do is argue and try be superior. why is it important you tell him whats up?

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    Again out of 66 pages with tons of other members saying the same thing as myself you come to fight with me. Take your own advice you posted earlier and just leave.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rcarter View Post
    Again out of 66 pages with tons of other members saying the same thing as myself you come to fight with me. Take your own advice you posted earlier and just leave.
    goes to show what kooks most SI posters are. why you still here? what happened to your temper-tantrum thread about how you want to delete your profiles and never come back because you got a wrist slap for throwing out murder threats...multiple times?

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    Quote Originally Posted by rcarter View Post
    Care to elaborate on where I am wrong in my post? I stated it was my and others opinion that Roy's boards are overpriced, went on to say due to a free market economy that Roy can charge whatever he wants but should expect people to have negative reactions.
    Dude read Roys Blog his surfboard story has been around for a while, his boards have been in surf shops In NZ and Im sure they have sold to many people. Roy sells alia blanks which Im assuming are in the fair market value category. Instead of being so concerned with cost which is a stigma for you surely, implanted by the surf industry, you should learn a bit about what other types of rare luxury items cost in todays market places. have a read about this http://most-expensive.com/top-10-furniture yeah this stuff is expensive but if your a top dog then why not? its called trickle down economics, the ultra wealthy demand and skilled craftsmen work with their clients to supply, its very simple really. I once built mortise and tenon garage doors with my father for a client on Martha's vineyard for a price that would upset you but the client got 100% unique and exotic doors from a wood called zebra wood.

    I cant speak for Roy but like any artist and craftsmen there is always room for negotiating with most things, except ones wife of course, mine is priceless!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Charles Taylor View Post
    Dude read Roys Blog his surfboard story has been around for a while, his boards have been in surf shops In NZ and Im sure they have sold to many people. Roy sells alia blanks which Im assuming are in the fair market value category. Instead of being so concerned with cost which is a stigma for you surely, implanted by the surf industry, you should learn a bit about what other types of rare luxury items cost in todays market places. have a read about this http://most-expensive.com/top-10-furniture yeah this stuff is expensive but if your a top dog then why not? its called trickle down economics, the ultra wealthy demand and skilled craftsmen work with their clients to supply, its very simple really. I once built mortise and tenon garage doors with my father for a client on Martha's vineyard for a price that would upset you but the client got 100% unique and exotic doors from a wood called zebra wood.

    I cant speak for Roy but like any artist and craftsmen there is always room for negotiating with most things, except ones wife of course, mine is priceless!
    I do understand the price for luxury goods. In fact I use zebra wood guitar picks that are $17 a piece compared to $.25 or less for tortex. And as I said but you keep glossing over Roy can charge whatever he wants but he should expect the criticism that comes with it. I am sure there are plenty of folks who would chastise that homeowner for spending money on special garage doors and say they should have given money to a charity but as I've said that's America and thank God we can do as we please with our cash. I agree the ultra wealthy can afford whatever luxuries they want and that is fine but how does the surf industry place a stigma on the price of goods when they sell boardshorts for $80! If anything the industry is promoting skyrocketing prices. I would guess Roy does sell other items like the alaias and his plans otherwise he would go the way of Billabong. Also comparing handcrafted garage doors on a house that will appreciate to an item used for fun in a sport/hobby that can be smashed in large waves (just like any board not just singling out Roy's) is not quite the same.

    I know you support Roy and that is fine so I'm not trying to start a war with you, just stating a differing opinion on an artist work. It's very common in all other art forms and that is why we have critics. Why is Roy held to a different standard and untouchable?

    Oh and I agree my wife is priceless too but I might trade her for a step up and a trip to CR! Just kidding.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rcarter View Post
    I do understand the price for luxury goods.
    then the issue you have with parallel profile surfboards aka Roy boards is a huge hypocrisy, they are indeed luxury items. Again your assuming that if you called Roy on the telephone to order a Board made by him that it would cost you 1 million and there is no exception. think of it as a luxury auction people might bid they might not they might low ball but in the end something somewhere sells.

    I am sure there are plenty of folks who would chastise that home owner for spending money on special garage doors and say they should have given money to a charity
    Investment bankers from Long Island should give their money to everyone including charities and especially our woodworking business. Trickle down economics is exactly why the rich shouldn't be in a comparable tax bracket to middle income americans, they create the economy tax them less.


    how does the surf industry place a stigma on the price of goods when they sell boardshorts for $80! If anything the industry is promoting skyrocketing prices.
    I don't get it, in the boat building industry its ok for Hunter day yahts to sell boats and its also ok for Royal Huismen to sell so thats clearly a very mature market with allot of consumer interests involved, think of a Roy board as the suit of armor to an English mansion but rather the surf quiver the the Royal Huismen Yacht. just trying to make a friendly analogy.

    I would guess Roy does sell other items like the alaias and his plans otherwise he would go the way of Billabong.
    Roy will never go the way of billabong because his surf company obviously isn't listed on the nasdaq therefore unless he doesn't level the balance sheet his surf ideology is immortal. A wooden surf shaper can always frame a house or build a boat or do anything else friend.

    I know you support Roy and that is fine so I'm not trying to start a war with you, just stating a differing opinion on an artist work. It's very common in all other art forms and that is why we have critics. Why is Roy held to a different standard and untouchable?
    Correct. He is not untouchable, but only on the basis of surf design, money does not affect ones surfing. Design wise everything is good surely. I can assure you Parallel profile surfboards are good, they take a long time to build and theres a small tolerance for error really.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Charles Taylor View Post
    then the issue you have with parallel profile surfboards aka Roy boards is a huge hypocrisy, they are indeed luxury items. Again your assuming that if you called Roy on the telephone to order a Board made by him that it would cost you 1 million and there is no exception. think of it as a luxury auction people might bid they might not they might low ball but in the end something somewhere sells.

    Surfboards are not meant to be luxury items even Roy's. Roy has never stated he haggles or sells boards for less and claims he has sold them for $500,000+ Would you buy one at that price? I know you will say if I had the cash but come on really? I know you said you were married and so I am I, I know if I bought one for that I would be divorced.]

    Investment bankers from Long Island should give their money to everyone including charities and especially our woodworking business. Trickle down economics is exactly why the rich shouldn't be in a comparable tax bracket to middle income americans, they create the economy tax them less.

    I agree with this especially the tax statement but still does not change the stigma some people have against buying overpriced toys just for the hell of it.

    I don't get it, in the boat building industry its ok for Hunter day yahts to sell boats and its also ok for Royal Huismen to sell so thats clearly a very mature market with allot of consumer interests involved, think of a Roy board as the suit of armor to an English mansion but rather the surf quiver the the Royal Huismen Yacht. just trying to make a friendly analogy.

    And again many people would feel wasting money on these boats is crazy regardless of the quality when a lesser priced one will do the same. See my earlier analogy of a BMW/Benz to a Yugo

    Roy will never go the way of billabong because his surf company obviously isn't listed on the nasdaq therefore unless he doesn't level the balance sheet his surf ideology is immortal. A wooden surf shaper can always frame a house or build a boat or do anything else friend.

    While he is not publicly traded he can still go bankrupt on his surfboard biz if the balance sheet goes into the red, then yes he can go frame houses but the surfboard co. still is bankrupt. Just as Billabong can start a new brand and re list on the Nasdaq.

    Correct. He is not untouchable, but only on the basis of surf design, money does not affect ones surfing. Design wise everything is good surely. I can assure you Parallel profile surfboards are good, they take a long time to build and theres a small tolerance for error really.

    This statement seems to imply that other boards are not good, do not take a long time to build and have large tolerances for error. Would you ride a board with misplaced fins and bumpy rails? No you would not, you would ask the shaper to do it again. As I have said 5 times now Roy's boards are very well made, look extremely impressive and may surf well for what they are designed for but are they worth the price? Only the purchaser can decide that and the surfing world as a whole seems to have spoken to how they feel about Roy's prices. Every business gets scrutinized for excessive prices and we all do comparative shopping. Do you go and buy the first dishwasher you find or do you look for the best price? Most retailers will price match their competition to keep sales up.
    You will never agree with myself or the others who dislike Roy's prices (notice I have never put down the construction, durability or design of Roy's boards) and you obviously feel the price is justified so that your opinion and your are entitled to it just as we are about Roy's pricing model.
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