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Last edited by capecodcdog; Sep 20, 2013 at 02:27 PM.
When I used the term pure surfing in regard to Roy's designs I am using it to simply imply that the olo style long board which it is doesn't do anything fancy other than surf efficiently from a sweet spot riding position. It's only designed to surf, not nose walk, smack lips, launch airs, or make excessive spray wih hard turning menuvers. So it's not to belittle anyone's feelings towards what's pure for them it's just a simplified style is all.
Sep 20, 2013, 07:14 PM #773Senior Member
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wouldn't it be a lot smarter for you to market these for a modest $25000-$35000 compared to the incomprehensible 1.4 million? Youre profit margins would still be huge and you could channel far more sales I would say, no?
Sep 20, 2013, 07:21 PM #775
Here’s Roy defining what “pure surfing” is:
Pure surfing, a Zen thing. The only goal is to make waves. It's a victory of the spirit over the mundane and reasonable. Pure surfing is unreasonable. It's primeval and predatory. It's a no mind state free of the usual pseudo rational social and mental abstractions which are used to justify and normalise waveriding. Civilisation insists upon the imposition of social context upon surfing via rules, competitions, schools of thought, style, status, and a demand for emotional self expression, as well as the banal demand to have ‘fun'. All of this excess baggage obscures the primary urge. Removing it leaves one in a state where there is no reason to surf. That is the key. No reason is needed.
Every corporate sponsored school of surfing has a list of required tricks which supposedly define surfing and which need to be performed or at least approved of for acceptance into the group. Longboarding has noseriding, cross stepping, soul arching, knee dropping, and other poses. Shortboarding has hacks, gouges, punts and tricks by the dozen. Alaia and finless surfing have 360's, the lala, and other tricks currently being named as it strives to become a ‘real' surfing school. Likewise SUP's obediently line up to ape shortboarding and longboarding moves. The whole deal is a zoo, a circus full of performing monkeys who know the price of everything but fail to understand the value of nothing. Without point scoring tricks surfing is nothing, just an empty no mind state. That's pure surfing.
Of course without some sort of goal one wouldn't surf at all, so we simply strive to catch and make waves. One might say that it's like competing in order to score one point or less, just as in golf the fewer strokes make the winner. This has a profound effect on surfboard design. Currently the industry produces surfboards which are like golfclubs made to take the maximum number of strokes while producing the greatest volume of divots. Paradoxically, intense intellectual discipline creates surrfboards which ride more by doing less.
So by using the term “pure surfing” in connection with Roy’s boards, I as someone who is reading your words am going to assume that you share his view point as to what “pure sufing” is. That and the quote below lead me to believe that it is your opinion that whatever it is, it doesn’t involve “the Malibu board walking style rarrick is probably used too.”
“I have never, not ever, had a conscious thought, good, bad or indifferent, while in the act of riding a wave. Some days I really need that vacuum, that purity.”
If the definition of “pure surfing” really is “a no mind state free of the usual pseudo rational social and mental abstractions”, then it doesn’t take one of Roy’s boards to do it. Or if it does, then it’s just a marketing gimmick.
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Sep 20, 2013, 07:36 PM #776
^^^ Well said
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Sep 20, 2013, 08:46 PM #780Senior Member
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The term 'pure surfing' is something I came up with as a convenient phrase which encapsulates some of my surfing and design ideology, as said previously, other people can use it to refer to whatever they like, I don't own it.