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    Angry custom surfboard thoughts?

    im having my local shaper make me a channel islands semi pro; basically exact same board at a fraction of the price, however there is a question i have- he wants to glass it 6oz, but i am not sure if that will make it less maneuverable or impossible to do airs on becuaase it will make it heavier. I would have it glassed 4oz for weight, ideally. What do you think? The board im getting is a 6 ft 1 inch, squash tail, wide point three inches behind center, slightly wider nose for mushy days, dims are 61 x 18 5/8 x 2 1/4. There is a deep single concave into a vee in the back, plenty of rocker. Any thoughts on the board? Im trying to get it as a winter/fall/spring board, waist to overhead high. Im 6 feet tall and weigh 170, which is why i wanted to get a inch bigger than me (winter wetsuit weight). OVerall i want a loose, skatey board than i can do hard turns on and try to land some airs.
    Any thoughts?

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    heavier glassing will make it a bit stronger & help the board last longer. IMO, there is no reason for the average surfer to have an "ultralight" board...those boards are essentially disposable surfboards. if a difference in 2oz. of glass is going to prevent you from doing airs, you probably shouldn't be trying airs. heavier boards also handle better in chop & high wind conditions. i'm not sure where the idea that you HAVE to have a super light board in order to surf progressively came from, but it's not a practical reality for the average surfer. if you look at an "ultralight" glassed board from the 80's & the glassing lam (if it has one) will likely show that it's got a 6/4x4 schedule, rather than today's 4/4x4 schedule. personally, at 6ft & 190, i can't ride boards glassed that way as i am very heavy on my feet, especially through turns, & i crush the decks in a matter of sessions. all my boards are 6/4x4 glassed.

    that said, hopefully the shaper is willing to glass it however you want it, given that you're the one ordering the board & paying for it.

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    and by 6/4x4, thats 6oz on top and 4 on the bottom?

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    Quote Originally Posted by hcsurf15 View Post
    and by 6/4x4, thats 6oz on top and 4 on the bottom?
    most boards have 2 layers of glass on the deck, either double 4oz (your standard "ultralight"), or a layer of 6oz & a layer of 4oz. a single layer of 4oz glass on the bottom is pretty standard. to save a bit of weight, you can do a full layer of 4oz on the deck & a 3/4 length patch of 6oz.

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    thats a good point, there are a lot of days where lighter boards can get crippled with the wind and chop. any i wasnt sure if heavier glass would cost me a lot in terms of boards aerial abililty. BEing that i can barely get air let along land it, im sure it wont make any difference except provide me with more drive down the line of smaller days due to it being a little heavier

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    Quote Originally Posted by hcsurf15 View Post
    BEing that i can barely get air let along land it, im sure it wont make any difference except provide me with more drive down the line of smaller days due to it being a little heavier
    If this is the case then I wouldn't worry about the glassing being too heavy, as a matter of fact it'll help preserve your board longer because at this stage you are still learning and will put a lot of damage on the board.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DawnPatrolSUP View Post
    If this is the case then I wouldn't worry about the glassing being too heavy, as a matter of fact it'll help preserve your board longer because at this stage you are still learning and will put a lot of damage on the board.
    OK so go with the more durable board to learn my airs with because i willprobably messit up during the process? that makes sense, maybe ill get a used firewire or something epoxy but durable

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    Quote Originally Posted by hcsurf15 View Post
    OK so go with the more durable board to learn my airs with because i willprobably messit up during the process? that makes sense, maybe ill get a used firewire or something epoxy but durable
    Without a doubt man, you don't want to end up buying another a new board shortly after getting one because you put your foot through it trying to land an air. Do yourself a favor and talk to Mike Daniel's at Coil Industries and get a custom made, OR try and find a one used. Coil is what you want for a durable but high performance shorty. Google "Coil Ride Reports" and read up on that thread, you'll see what i'm talking about.

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    Okay "DawnPatrolSUP", thanks a bunch

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    What's the core? If it's EPS, 6oz all around is fine. If it's PU, there's different densities, too. Gotta look at the whole picture... One thing I can say about that board, is the better the waves are, the better it will work. Waist high is stretching it.

    different glassers do it differently... Putting the 6oz under the 4 on the deck will save some weight. Putting the 6oz on top will give slightly better ding resistance. Four oz goes on the hull.
    Last edited by LBCrew; Feb 22, 2013 at 11:54 AM.